Talk:History of Google

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Google Technology[edit]

What did google contribute to search engine technology? As a reader, I came to the history of google page looking for information about how the search engine itself came about and became popular--revolutionized internet searching, etc. What was new and different? As of the moment I write this, the article is nothing but the evolution of google as a corporation in the world of business. M.J.Willett 00:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Google partnerships[edit]

Ther should be a part in this articla for Google partnerships.

Financing and IPO[edit]

This Washington Post article lists many important early investors (including AOL and Yahoo!) in Google, who do not find a place in the section. -- Sundar 06:50, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)

Google Offers Wikimedia Hosting[edit]

On February 11, 2005, news [1] [2] emerged that discussions are in progress over the possibility of Google hosting a section of the Wikimedia Foundation's information on donated servers and internet transit. Early information states that no advertising (such as Google's AdWords) would be necessary on Wikimedia's projects. The Foundation confirmed that the two groups will hold a private IRC chat in March to further discuss possibilities, and stressed that no details have yet been finalised. As a result, some outsiders have coined the unofficial term "Googlepedia".

This article now suffers from the same problem as Meta:Google hosting (at least this article is not protected), namely, it is outdated. It is past March now. Brianjd | Why restrict HTML? | 08:39, 2005 Apr 10 (UTC)

Financing and IPO, Managment[edit]

A line reads "...The deadline imposed by this requirement accelerated our decision." Should the words to commence the IPO or something be added? As a non-finance-head, I'm asking "What decision?"

The CFO seems to make a lot more money (salary) than do the founders of the company, the CEO, and the veep of sales. This use of k's for thousands seems obscurant. Should I presume (again as a non-investing person) that they own such huge pieces of the company that salaries are irrelevant?

"...[R]anked Google's corporate governance dead last...." With respect to performance? Greed? Height? Christian devotion? Should this be made clearer for people who keep their money under mattresses and won't follow the link?

Founding[edit]

I take it that September 27 is some anniversary of Google's founding, since that is what it says in the September 27 article and Google has birthday cake on its home page, but that is not mentioned in the article. The article only says that it was incorporated on September 7. What is September 27 the anniversary of?

Answer here

Sun agrees to distribute Google's toolbar with free Java software.[edit]

Do others here think this is worthy of a mention? Google, Sun partner CaribDigita 23:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Add it within the comment:
October 2005: Google and Sun Microsystems join forces to offer online word processing and spreadsheet functions. The partnership will help promote Sun's OpenOffice, Solaris OS and Java platform; which in turn will assist Google to compete with Microsoft's current dominance in the Office and Operating System software areas. Treelovinhippie 03:23, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Google and Comcast joint Venture in Time Warner Cable?[edit]

Google, Comcast said to be eyeing stake in AOL] CaribDigita 04:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC) Will they or wont they? :-)

"Google & AOL Deal - Key Take Aways"[edit]

This section sure doesn't sound objective. For one, it's written in first person nominative form. ModemManCJ 04:51, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

It's also plagiarism. Copied from a blog entry of two days old. http://net.typepad.com/net/2005/12/google_aol_deal.html. I am removing it. pitr 15:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Merging articles required?[edit]

I was just wondering do we really need 2 websites describing Google as all the information in Google is also in History of Google plus more. Artemisia 15:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Having them together would make this page too long. BrokenSegue 17:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
There's actually quite a bit more information in the History of Google as opposed to Google. This is actually standard practice on wikipedia as articles get very large. Plus, all of the criticism and controversy is here, as opposed to the main article, since generally, the controversy of today becomes tomorrow's history,... Dr. Cash 00:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
If anything, this article needs to be split between the History section and the Criticism section. Stev0 20:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with Dr. Cash - This page (currently) even does not say anything about the start in 1996!!! Aadaam 21:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Early financing[edit]

I've been doing some research and there's some major errors in the article. Here's what I have so far:

  • 1996 - IP royalties - 1/3 Brin/Page, 1/3 CS dept, 1/3 eng. school
  • 1998 - Stanford University - tech license for 5%
  • 1998 - Andy Bechtolsheim, David R. Cheriton, Ram Shriram, Jeff Bezos, Wilson Sonsini - $1m for 10%
  • 1999 - Sequoia Capital and Kleiner Perkins - $12.5m x 2 for 20% combined - 11% to 14% each in 2004
  •  ???? - Angel Investors Angel II (Rob Conway)
  • 2000 - Yahoo - $10m for ??% - warrant to purchase 3.7 million shares - 5% in 2004
  • 2001 - Eric Schmidt - CEO for ??%
  • 2004 - Sergey Brin and Larry Page - 40% combined

For some of the harder to find numbers, some links:

Some details: Bechtolsheim put in $200K in the first round in 1998. He gave them a $100K cheque on the porch, but then Cheriton, Shriram, Bezos, and Sonsini (and maybe others) were involved in actually settling on a valuation and by then Bechtolsheim put in another $100K and the total round was worth about $1m and got 10% (or maybe about 10%). That would put the company's valuation at 10m in 1998. You can see all these people listed as Series A investors in some of the IPO documents.

In 1999 Sequoia & Kleiner Perkins came in with $12.5m each for 10% each, this seems to have been round 2, or Series B in the IPO docs (the originals also seem to have invested more at the same time, but I haven't found the percentage they got in that round).

In 2000 Yahoo invested $10 for ? percentage. They apparently had 5% in 2004, but it may have involved warrants instead of straight shares. Also, a bunch of others came in 2000 including the infamous Angel Investors.

After that it seems the only major change of shares was for Eric Schmidt. At the time of the IPO Brin & Page still had 40%. Sbwoodside 23:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Page does not cover pre-2003 era at all, a lot of things are just copy-paste from Google[edit]

I think I'll request a merge, at least it will show up for some. Aadaam 22:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The 'early history' section was deleted by an anonymous IP vandal several months ago, and unfortunately wasn't caught by anti-vandalism patrols. It has been readded to the page. Thanks for pointing this out. Dr. Cash 04:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

what about adding "Google whacking" as a link here?[edit]

Give it the proper respect I think ;-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChenSo (talkcontribs) 07:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposed article idea[edit]

Shouldn't there be a "Timeline of Google" article? I recently noticed that Google changed their favicon and I was looking for a place to put this information. I know that "Wikipedia is not a dumping ground" for random information, but I think it would be beneficial to have a timeline. Agree? TIM KLOSKE|TALK 19:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

There already is an article on the History of Google, and your intuition is correct, that we shouldn't just create a timeline of each thing (little or big) the company does. --ZimZalaBim talk 19:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Government Funding[edit]

Shouldn't the history section mention who funded Larry Page and Sergey Brin original research project. NSF Rethinks Its Digital Library Jeffrey Mervis, Science 2 January 2009: Vol. 323. no. 5910, pp. 54 - 58, DOI: 10.1126/science.323.5910.54 and the references there in.--OMCV (talk) 02:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


Links[edit]

Just noticed that link #10 points to a directory site rather than anything related to the article, so either some spam got through or someone snapped the domain name after it expired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.105.38.74 (talk) 04:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Unintelligible Statement?[edit]

At the end of the Acquisitions section, there is the sentence.(If you want to call it that) "2011 google also buy motorola for developt their android into new version after collabration with samsung" Shouldn't this be removed or revised? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgb1110 (talkcontribs) 18:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.133.59.245 (talk) 18:12, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Google page brin.jpg - 1996 or 2003?[edit]

The description on the photo of Larry and Sergey on this page (not in the file page itself) says that the photo was taken from 1996. Is there any sources that says so? The Flickr description, Exif metadata and the file page tells me that it was taken in 2003 on a Kodak CX6330 Zoom camera. DrCooldudeAlt (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

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Scant mention of mobile[edit]

Smartphones now dominant personal communications, Google has the number one smartphone OS [Android] by marketshare, AND has done hardware [acquired then divested Motorola Mobility, the importance of the patents gained from that, Nexus, and now Pixel] - and all this history has is a one line section with a link to Android?!

Given the increasing role of "mobile digital" in humanity's daily life, and in our social evolution, this is a major shortcoming of this history. IMHO, The importance of this area dwarfs everything else Google has done and is doing, except of course for "search" itself. ToolmakerSteve (talk) 06:59, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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On "Updates and Evolution of Ranking System"[edit]

I see no way to save any of that section as written. Technical achievements should have academic papers and not simply rely on press statements; community terms are a noteworthy phenomenon but need secondary sources for notability. The specific phenomenon that Google rankings were static for periods of time of up to a month before July 2003 is not addressed at all in the current form. Power~enwiki (talk) 06:45, 10 May 2017 (UTC)