Talk:History of tax resistance
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Focus of the article
This article seems to cast way too wide a net. When I think "tax resistance" I think something like Thoreau. This list seems to take every single rebellion or war in which taxes are involved... which would be most of them. Taxes also tend to go up in unhappy times, which also lead to a revolt anyway. I mean, many Roman Emperors were assassinated because they didn't pay off the Praetorian Guard enough; should they be in an article on "History of revolts connected to not raising taxes enough?" As pointed out, the American Revolution's slogan was "no taxation without representation." This is again a little different than vanilla "tax resistance," and there were lots of reasons the American Revolution came about. I'm familiar with the Revolt of the Comuneros and the referenced book in this article does grave injustice to it- like the American revolution, taxes were a part of it, but far from all of it, and they pick some dinky footnote in Salamanca to talk about rather than a big one-time tax that was levied a year or so before the revolt. But again, I wouldn't call the Revolt of the Comuneros to be all about taxes, either, nor would the vast majority of the revolts on this list.
It's not exactly scientific, but could this list be narrowed down to specific cases where taxes was at least 75% of the reason for the "resistance," preferably more like 90-100%? "Resistance" that happens to be connected to taxes is just way too common. SnowFire (talk) 01:02, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, the article is getting too big. An article split is required with a new article History of war tax resistance created, using ideas from the NWTRCC, Peace Tax Seven and War Resisters League. Nirvana2013 (talk) 11:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Merge tax revolt into history of tax resistance
Propose - Merge tax revolt into this article. Both are protests against government taxation and forms of tax resistance/rebellion. Given that tax revolt cites Taxpayers in Revolt: Tax Resistance during the Great Depression as its main source and this article cites A World History of Tax Rebellions as its major source, I propose a merger. Following the merger I propose redirecting tax revolt to tax resistance. Nirvana2013 (talk) 15:29, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
British Columbia fights new Harmonized Sales Tax 2009-13
Introduced in 2009 by the then premier Gordon Campbell to stimulate the local economy and perhaps more importantly to the liberals, address a ballooning deficit. The new Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) combined the existing Goods and Services Tax (GST) of 5% with the Provincial Sales Tax (PST) of 7%. What was new is that previous items that were exempt from the PST would now become included. British Columbians responded with criticism almost immediately. A campaign to dissolve the new tax, led by former Social Credit premier Bill Vander Zalm collected nearly 500,000 signatures. The political debate proved costly for Gordon Campbell as he was eventually replaced as party leader Christy Clark, who promised a referendum on the new tax should she win the suddenly vacant position. On August 2011 the HST was defeated by a "Yes" vote of 55%.
The Liberal party may however have the final laugh as the HST, which took only a few short months to introduce and become law, will take a surprising 20 months to reverse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100Wayne (talk • contribs) 21:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you're suggesting this as an addition to the page, my recommendation is that you find some examples of actual tax _resistance_ in this campaign first. From your description, it sounds like it was just a controversial tax that was opposed and rescinded using the ordinary political process. —Moorlock (talk) 22:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
As stated above, this article is just one massive example farm. An editor with much more experience, knowledge, and understanding of wiki policies should really take a look at it. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 07:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Future of the article
So, the sentiment at AFD was something along the lines of "this is a notable topic but a bad article." I'm not exactly sure how to fix this. So as a vague proposal:
- Move the current content of this article to "List of tax protests and tax revolts" and possibly prune the list.
- Create a new article in its place which is just the current text in Tax resistance#History. If there truly is enough content to have this flower into a notable spinoff article, it can build off a temporarily short stub.
- I like the idea of changing the title of this article, perhaps to the title you suggest. I don't know that there's much need for a page that just contains the Tax resistance#History subsection, though. Unless that subsection were to grow much larger, it seems fine where it is. My recommendation would be to have this page redirect to the newly-titled page for now. -Moorlock (talk) 01:38, 23 July 2015 (UTC)