Talk:History of the Internet

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Reverse copyright infringement[edit]

See [1], which copies extensive amounts of this article; it was one of the first Google hits for "not running a communication utility", for example. No attribution to Wikipedia, this article, or its authors is given, and the author of the book reserves all rights. It was published in 2014, but bits such as the "communication utility" were present in the article in 2013. Nyttend (talk) 05:12, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

As the substantial copyright holder of the particular version that had been used, I've filed a DCMA notice to the publisher. This is pretty much the draft I recognise as much of my own work, including a lot of my personal idiosyncratic writing that's disappeared over time, albeit with a simple word-replacement filter run over it to try and mask the origin. Nice to know our work is worth stealing I guess? --Barberio 13:42, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Timeline AfD[edit]

Of interest to editors of this page is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of popular Internet services.

It seems like a stand-alone version of the "Examples of popular Internet services" built into this page. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:41, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

After looking for what editors of this page used for an inclusion criteria, I haven't actually found much. Source that says "popular"? Alexa rating? Featured in a "history of the internet" source? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:53, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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Popular Internet services[edit]

So there's the "Examples of popular Internet services" sidebar, which currently was added here in 2011, a few entries added between then and 2013, and then split off to Template:Internet history timeline. I'm not seeing any real discussion about what "popular Internet services" means, which suggests it's likely WP:OR. I started a thread about inclusion criteria on the talk page of the separate timeline of popular Internet services which I mentioned above, but didn't get any response. As that looks to be headed for deletion, I thought I'd open a discussion here.

The big picture proposal is that if we can't come up with an inclusion criteria that doesn't require WP:OR, that section should be removed. But here are some possibilities for inclusion criteria and some thoughts on each:

  • Sources calling something "popular" - Who knows how many tens of thousands of sites are described that way, with almost as many senses of the word. It's not a clear word to use and I don't think it helps us define criteria.
  • Traffic - The problem with traffic is that even if we have perfect traffic data over the last 20 years or so, web traffic in the 90s was dramatically less than it is today, such that a site that was among the most popular then probably wouldn't make the top 1000 today.
  • Traffic rankings - Alexa has been doing traffic rankings since, I think, the late 90s. Saying the list includes sites that have been in their top 10 or top 20 is a way to go, but with such a narrow criteria the list should probably be renamed accordingly. Also, historical data is only available to people with paid accounts on Alexa (I don't have one, and my bet is most others editing the page don't).
  • Other timelines of Internet services - If a reliable source has a timeline of popular Internet services or something reasonably similar, we add what it has to the list. The standard for sourcing would have to be high, because many such timelines' criteria are quite low, and would be sensitive to when they were published (e.g. in the early days of the web some people tried to document all the websites they could find).
  • Something else?

Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Updated information on DNT communications between ISS and Earth[edit]

In section 2.7 of this article ("Networking in outer space"), is the following sentence:

"Testing of DTN-based communications between the International Space Station and Earth (now termed Disruption-Tolerant Networking) has been ongoing since March 2009, and is scheduled to continue until March 2014.[91]"

This sentence needs to be updated. Ylok (talk) 16:39, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2017[edit]

Please change "Web 2.0: Compact Definition". Scholar.googleusercontent.com. Retrieved 2013-06-15.[dead link] to "https://www.stercodigitex.com/blog/comprehending-the-concept-of-web-2-0/" because its a page which is dead or no longer exist. Ratneshkumarprasad (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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First use of the word[edit]

I think the first use of the word internet in 1974 should be highlighted more prominently, such as by mentioning it in the lead, along with the fact that it was the shortened form of internetwork(ing) and since when (60s?) that earlier term had been in use. --79.242.203.134 (talk) 23:14, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Internet history timeline[edit]

This lengthy but useful sidebar is blowing out page layout on non-mobile platforms. It is rendered inline as part of the lead on mobile platforms. This template is used only for this article. To improve layout and maintenance issues, I propose to convert the content in the template to a subsection in this article. ~Kvng (talk) 21:09, 7 May 2017 (UTC)