Talk:History of video games
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Generation starts and ends
first of all, for the 8th generation, it says that it will start in 2012 with wii u. But it already started earlier this year in 2011with 3ds! For the seventh generation, it says it started in 2005 with xbox 360. But it started in 2004 with ds. And for the sixth generation, it says that the sixth generation ended in 2011 with playstation 2. But since the playstation 2 is not discontined, and there's no discontinue announced for the playstation 2, it is unsure when it will be discontinued. Why is it like this?!
Nintendo Hand-Helds do not count as a "generation", because they hardly EVER have cutting edge processor or graphics technology. The new ones are normally released with a new clever gimmick, but they do NOT represent a true upgrade in technology to a new generation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ТнеСупԁісате.сом (talk • contribs) 06:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Is there a reason someone ended the seventh generation in 2010? It's still ongoing. For example, look at the third generation with the NES; it shows and end date of 1995 because that's when the NES stopped production. All three major consoles in the seventh generation are in production still, and are still the primary consoles of this generation. It didn't end in 2010. Fourthgeartapped (talk) 13:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- Wtf are you talking about? Generations are not measured by power. If that was the case, the Wii would be 6th generation, and that's simply not true. Yes, I suggest we change the start of the 7th to 2004.--Arkhandar (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I don't really think the Wii U and 3DS are in the 8th generation of systems. I think it should start with the Xbone and PS4. The Wii U is really an incremental upgrade to the Wii that puts it on par with say the 360, but with a great controller. And the 3DS is really the DS with 3D added. I think we can all speculate that Nintendo will be releasing a new console in the next 2-3 years, their own take with something on par with the One and PS4. Those devices would be in the 8th gen. I just don't think their current devices are enough of a leap forward to constitute 8th gen. I think history will show this to be the case, even though without the One and PS4 out it seems like the Wii U and 3DS are next gen, when they are not. Your Mapper (talk) 19:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Console Software developer values
user:Indrian has stated that Nintendo Konami and Capcom were the top software companies in terms of revenue. Awaiting his source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakandsig (talk • contribs) 01:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- You still do not understand how wikipedia works. I am not trying to add that fact to the article, so I do not need to source it. I included that fact in my edit summary to help try to explain to you why your attempt to remove material that IS sourced (namely that console software dominance shifted to Japan after the crash) is in error. This is cited to computer game magazines from the late 1980s that directly state that US developers were not entering the Nintendo market. Now, of course this dominance did not last. In the early 1990s, Electronic Arts entered the market and immediately got huge. In the mid to late 1990s Midway, Activision, and Interplay all entered the market heavily as well. (Activision was briefly in the console market in the late 1980s as well before going bankrupt). By the previous generation, there had been a complete dominance shift in the opposite direction, with Japanese developers becoming largely irrelevant. The article is referring to one specific point in time, the US after the crash, that the market dominance shifted. It is not claiming it stayed that way for ever and ever. If you want to remove sourced content, which this is, you need to give us a reason to discount the source by presenting other sources. Indrian (talk) 01:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
And you have done such a great job not helping me figure out how Wikipedia works. If there is no source I figure you would need to source it since that is the base of your whole argument, but you are now telling me you do not need to source it. So as you can see, I have no idea what you are trying to say, and hopefully you explain it instead of doing your usual one vague response and run thank you very much.Jakandsig (talk) 01:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have actually been very patient with you across multiple talk pages for all the good it has done. The statement you continue removing from the article is sourced. I am not trying to add info, you are trying to remove it. Since it is sourced, the only good reasons to take it out would be 1. the source does not meet wikipedia's reliability standards, 2. the source does not actually back up the statement, or 3. a preponderance of souces shows that this source is actually in error. You are removing the sourced statement without attempting to offer any justification. That is disruptive editing, which you have engaged in across too many articles for it to be simple misunderstanding at this point. Indrian (talk) 02:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Fine, you can revert to the previous state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakandsig (talk • contribs) 02:14, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
7th gen did not end in 2012
They still sell the 7th generation consoles today. A generation ends when the last console from that generation is discontinued. For Example, the PlayStation 2 discontinued in 2013, thus, ending the 6th generation.
First 3D home computer
"Maze games: Pac-Man (1980) was the first game to achieve widespread popularity in mainstream culture and the first game character to be popular in his own right. 3D Monster Maze (1981) was the first 3D game for a home computer,"
I think this is wrong. http://www.mobygames.com/game/maze-game predates Monster Maze
No mention of PC gaming after late 1990's
As well as this, there are no mentions of big PC only game franchises like Total War, or Arma. Actually very little discussion about any video games, and improvements made to them. Nearly all of the information in the modern section of the article discuss console specs and release, something that should be on the console page, not here.