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Joining Mother-, Father- and Homeland[edit]

Is there any reason for not redirecting Motherland and Fatherland to Homeland? Brallan 14:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

That makes sense, and a number of people have suggested it on other pages. I am now merging them. SilkTork *YES! 09:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I do not agree with this merge, now all the disamb Motherland topics are orphaned. Motherland is a completely separate word in English language and hence it should not be merged. It would be better to ref to Motherland here but then have a sep Motherland page.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 11:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I also protest this undiscussed merger. Lars T. (talk) 01:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Per this discussion i have restored it, It can be a stub in this article. It is far too common and expression on its own to be hidden in a homeland, which reminds me of American security. So these words have connotations and need their seperate space to be developed. Plus all the content on words for Motherland were lost including the fact that it orphaned disabig terms for Motherland. no solid reason for the merger.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 05:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

the merger is necessary simply because Motherland and Fatherland had no content other than what is here, plus a completely unreferenced list of terms.

After you copied the content here. Surprise!' 'Lars T. (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course it would be possible to turn Motherland and Fatherland into standalone articles, but for that we would need referenced content that goes beyond a short paragraph. --dab (𒁳) 11:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Africa the Motherland of humanity and civilization?[edit]

«The term "Motherland" is very often applied to Africa due to it being the origin of humanity and civilization», is declared in this article. Well, mmmh, yes, there seems to be full agreement on an Oldowan origin of mankind (hence civilization). But I really never heard or read anybody applying the term "Motherland" to Olduvai Gorge or the like in Africa. Would someone provide with references for such a strong expresion "very often applied"?

Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 10:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Fatherland merger[edit]

Fatherland needs to be merged into this article. They are the same topic. I read some comments about fatherland having a different connotation. This is mostly untrue. The word fatherland does tend to be used in different contexts than homeland but that does not make them different topics, just different words for the same topic. Regardless the fatherland article is currently mostly a lookup of translations into different languages.

-- (talk) 19:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I completely disagree -- "Fatherland" references a Patriarchal history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:54, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Disagree: Why bother? They have different meanings and been used differently throughout history. There's enough content for both.--Hutcher (talk) 20:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge Motherland has already been merged here, and Fatherland is nothing but a list of countries that use the term and some OR garbage about Nazis. --BDD (talk) 05:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Don't merge. There are two different ensembles of articles in Wikidata:
    • The Vaterland/Patria concept (from germanic/latin languages, like Vaterland in German, "fatherland" or "motherland" in English, patria in Spanish, patrie in French etc)
    • The "homeland" concept (with its own articles in the list, corresponding with this "homeland" article)
Kintaro (talk) 14:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)