Talk:Homosexuality in China

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Tibetan Buddhist monks and homosexuality[edit]

Homosexual practices were tolerated in Tibetan monasteries as long as they were limited to the thighs and did not involve anal penetration.

http://www.case.edu/affil/tibet/tibetanMonks/documents/Tibetan_Buddhism_and_Mass_Monasticism.pdf

http://faculty.washington.edu/stevehar/Drepung.pdf

https://tibetanhistory-20thcentury.wikischolars.columbia.edu/The+Struggle+for+Modern+Tibet

http://www.academia.edu/1470188/_Macho_Buddhism_Gender_and_Sexualities_in_the_Diamond_Way_in_Religion_and_Gender_1_2011_pp._85-103

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7538.html

http://blogs.dickinson.edu/buddhistethics/files/2014/07/Stoltz-Tibetan-Polyandry-final1.pdf

http://www.iep.utm.edu/santideva/

https://collab.itc.virginia.edu/wiki/tibettourism/Gay%20%26%20Lesbian%20Travelers.html

Rajmaan (talk) 22:38, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Added material[edit]

Hi all, I added a quick paragraph about the effects of Western gay and lesbian culture on the Chinese scene within the "Gay, lesbian, and queer culture in contemporary Mainland China" section. Somewhat undecided about whether or not it is okay to simply refer to the general culture as "gay" culture, or if it is more correct and inclusive to continue referring to it as the "lesbian and gay" culture. I stuck with the latter to stay safe. Patriqueliu (talk) 21:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 25 August 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Obvious consensus against. (non-admin closure). Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:24, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


Homosexuality in ChinaLGBT+ Identity in China – The term h*mosexual is considered a slur by many gay and lesbian people, and it is inappropriate to continue referring to them as such when this article is meant to provide clarity into their history. Furthermore, this article mentions many subjects that fall under the rest of the LGBT+ umbrella, such as transgender identity. Therefore, the name should be changed to LGBT+ Identity in China as that would provide a more concise and accurate title which would not offend LGBT+ people. Faunadolls (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose – Homosexuality is a factual, neutral description, not a slur. — JFG talk 08:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose – The proposed title is not more accurate or concise than the current title. Homosexuality is not a slur and is not inappropriate for a encyclopedic topic. The proposer does not give a strong rational to move this page. Ḉɱ̍ 2nd anniv. 16:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose - At the end of the article there are two navigation boxes: LGBT rights in Asia and Homosexuality in Asia. This article logically fits in the latter group and thus should retain its current title. (Compare to the related article LGBT rights in China) - Reidgreg (talk) 16:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • "China" is considered a slur by many people too but this alone cannot guide article titles. —  AjaxSmack  01:53, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Hah, very witty, AjaxSmack, thanks for a good chuckle! — JFG talk 03:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose! "Homosexuality" is not a slur, and Wikipedia policy doesn't ban supposed slurs in article titles. Furthermore, the current title is more consistent with other pages on the wiki.  ONR  (talk)  04:41, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Homos in china would be slur but not homosexuality Norschweden (talk) 14:15, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose as WP:GREATWRONGS and WP:NOT#ADVOCACY language-change activism. Such a move would be culturally inappropriate, politicized, and confusing to most readers. "Homosexuality" is not at all a pejorative, it's a neutral descriptor (though not always accurate; whether sources distinguish clearly between homosexuality and bisexuality in China is worth looking into). The word "homosexual" applied as a label ("she is a homosexual") has a (not exclusively) pejorative use, but these are not the same thing.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:37, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Not in any way insulting or a slur. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:56, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.