Talk:Horizon Science Academy

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Just wondering, why would you consider it unencyclopedic when there are hunreds, excuse me, thousands of articles on Wikipedia about secondary schools? Please comment back. If not, I'll contact you personally. Alex43223 15:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I do agree about it not needing a place for school rules, of which I plan to clean up, but the template you used states that the TOPIC of the article doesn't fit, and that is what I don't understand. Also, why didn't you post anything on the talk page? Alex43223 15:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Reads like a school rulebook not an encyclopedia entry[edit]

Why do we need to know dress code rules? Its not as if the majority of the Wikipedia readers (which is global in scale) will need to know what sort of hair ornaments are prohibited in this school. Right now, the unencyclopedic tag is correct - the information presented here tells us nothing notable about this school apart from a generic dress code and an unremarkable grading policy (A = 4.0, D = 1; I think 99% of the schools out there use that scale).

This article needs to cleaned up to conform to the Wikipedia policy on school articles: Wikipedia:Schools Less cut and paste from rulebooks. --Eqdoktor 23:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Wholesale Deletions from POV Interest[edit]

Mbayrakdar, why did you make the wholesale deletions about the controversies at HSA? Do you work for HSA or Concept Schools, and therefore don't want people to know about the auditing investigations and misappropriations of public money? Please respond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.192.165 (talkcontribs)

Brought to my attention by the emergency attention section at WP:SCH I have no interest or affiliation in this school and have looked at the auditor report. The only matter that the ref supports is the possible misuse of funds that the school contends were for 'relocation expenses' and 'pre-employment investigation'. Without proper references everything else in the controversy section (or the entire article) can be challenged and/or removed at any time. Zedla 19:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

More wholesale deletions[edit]

I removed the About section per WP:COPYVIO because it was entirely lifted (i.e. "stolen") from HSA's numerous websites with no attribution or apparent permission (the material is clearly copyrighted). See here and here.

I then reviewed the edit history of the Controversy section and determined that more than enough time had passed since its initial addition for the original contributor or anyone else to add cites to sources per Wikipedia:Verifiability. No one ever has. I then did an exhaustive web search of news articles and found nothing to support the allegations, with the exception of the mishandling of funds. Even there, however, there were no related news stories and the amount of funds in question was minuscule. No charges or administrative actions were taken by the state of Ohio. I did find two very recent news stories about some other problems at HSA: (1) education licensing problems, and (2) funds mishandling issue. The licensing problems do not appear to have risen to the level of "controversy" and may never (although the coverage is still young), and the funds problem again is un-newsworthy and hardly controversial.

This leaves the article a Stub, so anyone is welcome to add to it. I will say that in my Googling I found no stories about any of the HSA schools that one would expect to find about schools. No sports, no plays, no clubs, etc. Otherwise I would have started adding to the article.
 Jim Dunning  talk  :  22:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I took a few minutes to look at the entire history of the article, and with the exception of the Controversies section (which was removed for lack of sources), nearly every word of text from day one (all the various versions, including reverts and edit 'wars') was cut-n-pasted from the school's website or a school registry site. Suggestion: when copy is unsourced and looks a bit off, take a second to Google a six or seven word phrase; it will save a lot of time and effort. Many well-meaning editors exerted far too much effort reverting, placing various warning tags, and asking for mediation for nothing over the past 20 months. What a waste.
 Jim Dunning  talk  :  02:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)