Talk:Horror and terror
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- 1 VfD
- 2 This article is completely false
- 3 Not just monsters
- 4 Parts of this article are wrong
- 5 This article tells me nothing
- 6 Influential Directors of the Horror/Terror Genre
- 7 Trim needed
- 8 Desperate need of a rewrite
- 9 my viewpoint on the subject
- 10 Copyright problem removed
- 11 Delete section 'Horror and terror in film'
This article is completely false
Surely 'terror' becomes before 'horror'. E.g.: you spend a night in a haunted house and are 'terrified', you then open the closet and find to your 'horror' that there is a skeleton in it.....This is the build up of all horror films: the scary terrifying build up and then the sickening moment of horror when the monster, ghost, body, killer is revealed. Terror is the anticipation, Horror is the pay-off. Colin4C 18:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I think that the article has been drastically improved. You added a lot of examples of the dieffenence between horror and terror and it looks much better than when it was previously editted. The spelling and grammar look good too. (220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC))
I agree that this article has very much been improved. The difference between horror and terror might have been over emphasized (meaning that the definitions of both and the difference between them seems to be stated around 3 or 4 times) all early in the article, near the top. The film information was interesting and informative. The quotes and information from the famous writers of this genre of storytelling (like Stephen King) was also both interesting and insightful. --Keith Siebel (talk) 04:14, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Not just monsters
You can experience horror waiting or other things too. For Example: "John sat in horror as the police questioned his neighbors, he didnt want to get caught for what he did."
Parts of this article are wrong
Radcliffe was not a Gothic Horror writer, because the genre is named Gothic Fiction AND she established a new subgenre: Terror Gothic. Terror is the systematic and apparently indiscriminate use of real or threatened violence, especially physical, to spread fear and horror with the intent of making a population compliant. Horror, on the other hand, is the reaction to appriations, and so it can more likely be seen as something scary. Violence, whether it is physical or psychical, scarcely occurs and should be termed terror.
This article tells me nothing
For anyone who has experienced or seen the face of horror and terror in reality, and are looking for answers in this article, this page explains or conveys nothing. Considering 50%-90% of people will experience trauma in thier lifetime (reference: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder wiki), and are searching for answers to their human existence, which very likely may lead them here, I find this article 100% inadequate. This article rather seems to refer to the concepts of horror and terror used only in the context of a literary devices in fiction.
The real experiences of Horror and Terror are quite real and visceral; once you experience them, you can never look away from them, and they forever change your life. Looking into the face of Horror is like looking into the face of Oblivion, or the all seeing evil eye of the J.R. Tolkien books, or as I best can say it, right into the face of death. I can not tell you what Horror is, but I can tell you its effect: it is a heavy overwhelming weight that will turn a young man old; it is a force that will erase all joy from your face in the mirror and replace it with a crushing sadness that hardens into a permanent frown; its a panic look of fright that never ends.
Though wikipedia is not meant to be a self-help psyciatric salve, many people use it in a self-help capacity, and I'm sure some learned and studied mendicant can come up with a far more flushed out and complete article than the current one provides. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 03:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Influential Directors of the Horror/Terror Genre
Agreed. This list is far from complete and is amateurish in its construction. The directors listed aren't even organized in any discernible fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 13:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Building on the last section, I think this article should really be held to the part before the table of contents and the rest can be farmed out to other articles (probably, it already it).
Desperate need of a rewrite
The bulk of this article reads like a middle school book report. I would take a stab, but my inclination would be to cut so deeply as to leave a stub. I think there's two maybe paragraphs of actual encyclopedic content here, plus a bunch of terribly bad original research and opinion. If nobody objects and I have the time, maybe I'll take a hatchet to it. (All bad puns intended.) Gerweck (talk) 15:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
my viewpoint on the subject
I'm pretty sure it's accurate to say that there isn't a clear line between Horror and Terror, as both genres and emotions. I don't think one could clearly say where one ended and the other began. However, I don't think it's accurate to say that the two terms of synonyms, either. Gringo300 (talk) 02:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Delete section 'Horror and terror in film'
The entire section 'Horror and terror in film' from this article should simply be deleted. It's not the only issue with the article but this section is rubbish. It looks very much like a copy-paste of a high school essay. It has been tagged with a bunch of 'citations needed' but the underlying issue is that it's a poorly structured series of basically non sequitur assertions. Even if some of them happen to be true, citing them won't help the fact that it's basically uninformative.
The article needs more work, but the starting point has to be deleting this obviously terrible section so focus can shift to the bits of the article with some salvage potential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 12:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
I deleted the entire section. As the commenter above me pointed out, it was terribly written, full of inaccuracies, and just flat out didn't seem to belong. A horror and terror in film section is fine, but it needs to at least be properly researched and written. There was nothing salvageable, as far as I could tell. I thought of just trimming it, but it was just a mess that I thought I would serve the article better to just get rid of it.