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Requested move 10 July 2014[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Clearly a consensus against the original proposal, House, M.D. (TV series), and I would say that the calls for House M.D. are at about 'no consensus', but this RM has become slightly muddied as some have responded only to the original proposal. No prejudice against a new RM with House M.D. as the proposed title. And if anyone does start said RM, I would suggest they try to show that "House M.D." is a regularly used title in independent reliable sources – the official name is largely irrelevant. Jenks24 (talk) 15:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


  • User:Thewolfchild's edit comment for his move says "The logo on the opening credits of EVERY SINGLE EPISODE states the show is called "House M.D."". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Support. - "Everybody calls it House" ...so what? Everybody refers to the city of Los Angeles simply as "L.A.", but the wiki page goes by the proper name. (I checked!) I haven't seen any real "consensus" on this, more like baseless POV-pushing by a handful of people. And, really, how can we even entertain any consensus to change the proper name of this show? Yes, there are many sources that refer to the show simply as "House". But I'll bet that in many of those instances, they are referring to the character, after all... he is the show. But for those that lazily drop the M.D., who cares? That doesn't mean WP has to. What is more definitive than the show's own title card? For this show, it reads "House, M.D.", at the beginning of every. single. episode. Some people say "I think Fox changed it", but obviously they didn't, and neither should we.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewolfchild (talkcontribs)
I hate to break it to you, but Fox calls the show HOUSE. Calidum Talk To Me 05:48, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I hate to break it to you, but Fox calls the show HOUSE, M.D. - theWOLFchild 05:57, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
From the above: "HOUSE is an innovative take on the medical drama in which the villain is a medical malady and the hero is an irreverent, controversial doctor who trusts no one, least of all his patients." Troll harder. Calidum Talk To Me 06:01, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
You mean the same "above" that shows the title as "House, M.D."? - theWOLFchild 16:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Please read this promotional blurb from Fox. Incidentally, we don't call the Batman TV series 'Batman, written inside a bat's wings with a man's head on it' [1]. Dbrodbeck (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
wow. Are you trying to be funny? It ain't working... - theWOLFchild 07:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Well I thought it was funny, to each his or her own. That page very clearly calls the show 'House' and not 'House MD'. The logo, however, has 'MD' in it, that was the point I was trying to make in a way that you did not find funny. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes. See here, here, and here, for example. Calidum Talk To Me 14:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Yep, and got it wrong each time. - theWOLFchild 16:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Support moving to House M.D. per WP:NATURALDIS. It's true that "House" is the common name, but "House (TV series)" is not, and as long as we are forced to disambiguate (House being taken) it is neater to disambiguate with a natural variation. bd2412 T 12:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't really want to badger everyone citing NATURALDIS, but as far as I can tell only IMDB refers to the show as House MD. So is it really natural if we're essentially making up a name based on a title card? Calidum Talk To Me 14:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Amazon calls it both ways. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 10:03, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose per common name --In actu (Guerillero) | My Talk 15:08, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose as the relevant source is the current distributor, USA Network, which refers to the show as House and not House M.D. It is common practice to disambiguate using the "M.D." in the logo, but the logo is not the same as the title. Muffinator (talk) 19:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
So what? The name of the show is the name of the show. The logo IS the title. - theWOLFchild 16:54, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
The logo is a graphic representing the show. It happens to contain the title. There’s a difference here. If “House, M.D.” is the official title, then official sources use it not just in graphical form, but in print, as text. If this is the case, I’ll absolutely support this move. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 09:13, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment: First, I have to correct those who are distinguishing the logo from the name. Yes there is a distinction, but the logo is (as best I can represent here): "[H]OUSEMD" ... (or, to spell it out: the capital "H" is placed in a box, the "OUSE" is underlined and also in block capitals, and the "M.D." is capitalized but written in an extremely tiny font. I agree that this should not be used as our article title.
Looking at a whole bunch of sources that talk about this show, it seems that the show actually has two variations on it's name... the sources refer to the show as either "House" or "House M.D." (and in fact, there are a few cases where both variations are used within the same source). The sources I looked at were a wide range of sources... newspaper and magazine reviews, websites, TV listings, the website for the Emmys, etc. and they seem to be very mixed. I don't find that one version is used significantly more often than the other (in other words... looking at the sources, I don't think we can say that one or the other is the WP:COMMONNAME... or perhaps we should say that there is no single WP:COMMONNAME). So... I don't think it matters which is used in our article... both meet our goals of Recognizability, Naturalness, Precision, Conciseness, and Consistency about equally. Both are equally acceptable titles. I would, however, say that whichever is used, the other should used as a redirect. Blueboar (talk) 22:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Support per WP:NATURALDIS. Both variations of the name are common, so use the one that doesn’t require parentheses. —174.141.182.82 (talk) 08:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Support straightforward WP:NATURALDIS. walk victor falk talk 21:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment - Also note that when "sources" use just "House", it is just as often (if not more) a reference to the titular main character, than the show... - theWOLFchild 07:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Can anyone here explain why wp:commonname should 'out-trump' wp:naturalids? - theWOLFchild 07:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment I thought I would look at a few sources, such as the Emmys [2] and the entry about the show's Peabody [3] and both call the show 'House' not 'House MD' unless I am missing something. House, then, seems not just to be the common name, but the name of the show. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:56, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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possibly far?[edit]

Statistic needs update, most of them still only season 6, consider the show was finished more than two years, I think is best to do some rewriting, then this will be a stable article. But before that, this is not a featured quality article.

Hope someone could follow up, this is still a very good article.--Jarodalien (talk) 03:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Hugh Laurie[edit]

He is NOT English, he is Scottish. Depending on one's political views he may be British, but he's DEFINITELY NOT English.

--93.196.128.56 (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I think being born in Oxfordshire probably makes him English. Dbrodbeck (talk) 13:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Masters is not a doctor...[edit]

At no point during the show's run has she ever acquired her MD. Why is she still being listed as "Dr. Martha Masters" in the cast section? I keep changing it only for it to be edited back. 24.114.54.209 (talk) 18:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

A PhD is a doctoral degree. Apparently she had two. So really, she's Dr. Dr..... Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Yes, a PhD is a doctoral degree. However, the show never addresses her as anything but "Martha M. Masters" and it's ridiculous to refer to her as anything but. 99.252.82.219 (talk) 05:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't see what difference it makes what she was called on the show. She had two doctoral degrees. "Dr" is appropriate. Meters (talk) 06:07, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

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