Talk:House of Vasa
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"When Sigismund II of Poland died without issue,"
Did the Polish Vasas really "die out"?
The article now reads: "After John, the Polish Vasa died out". Was this really the case? Was John the last male of the line or only the last Polish Vasa on the throne?KarlXII 23:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- They did not leave any male nor female survivor. The death of John II Casimir, a couple of years after his abdication, brought an end to the entire issue of Bona Sforza with Sigismund I, and (consequently of course) to Sigismund III's issue. It is not only the male line which went extinct. No daughters either had produced surviving children. They suffered from the Jagiellon dynasty difficulties to continue the progenity in any legitimate way. ObRoy 11:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
PS We do not necessarily know if some of them actually managed to leave bastard issue to continue the genetic line, but at least no such are documented in a sufficient way, and anyway the illegitimates would not have had a serious role in royal succession. ObRoy 11:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
PPS The Vasa of Sweden continued in female line from several siblings of John III of Sweden, but they, of course, were not descendants of Polish kings. ObRoy 11:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Sigismund died without a male heir, their son was elected king of Poland and grand duke of Lithuania as Sigismund III in 1587
Should be "without an heir" as females could inherit the Polish throne (Anna Jagiellonka's situation is unclear to me, since I know that she was elected King (in the Polish tradition of using this word even for females) with Stefan Batory, Prince of Transylvania given her as husband; I am not sure if it was also the case during the earlier election of Henri de Valois who escaped Poland after a short reign to become the King of France after the death of his brother). Moreover, Sigismund III was elected in 1587, that is 15 years after the death of Sigismund Augustus and as a result of a royal election system instituted at Sigismund Augustus' death (Sigismund III's was the third election). It may be a good idea to mention the way he ascended to the Polish - Lithuanian throne; the way his sons ascended was the same as his. I would not presume to change an article on Swedish royalty, since I am Polish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pernambuco1 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
"In 1654 Christina, the daughter of Gustavus Adolphus, the Protestant Champion of the Thirty Years' War, abdicated, converted to Catholicism and left the country."
Wouldn't it be better with "...abdicated, left the country and converted to Catholicism...", in that order? She converted to the Catholic on 24 December 1654 in Brussels, after leaving Sweden for Rome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgtw (talk • contribs) 19:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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I'm not sure why, but image Flaga_Rzeczpospolitej_Obojga_Narodow.svg is not displaying (on the left - Royal banner of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth). File exists and you may display it clicking on the link.
So how did the Vasas become monarchs in the first place? This article doesn't say anything about their origins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2014 (UTC)