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At the moment the article says that blood was considered to be produced in the liver and in the table it claims that blood was considered to be produced in the heart. It can't be both. To me that makes the content in the table questionable. ChristianKl (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Greetings! I did the following changes to the article:
Phlegm redirected to Phlegm#Phlegm and humourism
Black bile was redirecting to melancholia. However, melancholia has been described as a mere consequence of excess black bile; the link was not pertaining to "black pile" itself.
Yellow bile was redirecting to bile | The link didn't provide any additional information on "yellow bile" itself.
Blood did not define "Blood (humor)" at all.
Ancient Egypt changed into ancient Egyptian medicine, the link remaining the same.
Here's also a list overlinked words: black bile; yellow bile; phlegm; blood; Greeks; Romans; Muslim; Western European; four elements; season; Greek; juice; flavor; Mesopotamia; foods; life; geographic; occupations; diseases; temperament; health; sanguine; choleric; melancholic; phlegmatic; Unani; drama; cellural pathology Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 09:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Modern Equivalents did not belong here
There have been repeated attempts to incorporate modern equivalents (first Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, then Keirsey Temperament Sorter). This is wrongheaded. It *is* significant to those modern personality characterisations that they have tried (or practitioners of them have tried) to link them with the utterly discredited theory of humourism. But it is not relevant to humourism, because these modern personality characterisations did not exist when it was a current theory. The equivalences are not helpful for a modern reader trying to get to grip with the humourist categorisations either, because they are not exact equivalents. Mostly, I think it is an attempt to give Myers-Briggs, Keirsey, and all an ancient pedigree that they simply do not have (and if they see themselves as valid theories should not want). For those reasons, I am removing the modern equivalents from the table and I would encourage other editors not to put them back. Furius (talk) 12:29, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
Move request of Melancholia
Encyclopedia of Pseudoscience: From Alien Abductions to Zone Therapy
|discussion now at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Use_of_encyclopedia_as_source_for_statement_that_humorism_is_pseudoscience Jytdog (talk) 22:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)|
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Greetings! There was a source called '[Encyclopedia of Pseudoscience: From Alien Abductions to Zone Therapy] recently added to the article. IMHO, we'd need something better than sources dealing with extraterrestrials. Moreover, if the source is to be taken as an "encyclopedia", then we should strongly favor reliable secondary sources instead of some tertiary sources, such as encyclopedias (WP:TERTIARY). Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 20:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
OK Jayaguru-Shishya enough edit warring, and enough shifting grounds.
Please provide a valid reason under policy or guideline for rejecting the use of the source and content:
see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Use_of_encyclopedia_as_source_for_statement_that_humorism_is_pseudoscience Jytdog (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Mistake in Humor-Organ Table
In the table under the "Four Humors" section, relating the humors to organs, black bile is listed as being associated with the gallbladder, when I think it should instead be the spleen. I think it is YELLOW bile that is associated with the gallbladder. The two seem to be switched.
The page for Spleen#Society_and_culture discusses its association with black bile (and melancholy).
This is not a reliable source, but here is a webpage on the humors that relates black bile with the spleen, and yellow bile with the gallbladder.
Could someone look into correcting this?
- that is what the ref says. if you have a different reliable source (as we define that) that says different, that would be interesting. in wikipedia the source you link to is not considered a reliable source. Jytdog (talk) 05:25, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Temperaments incorrectly associated?
The table showing the associations between the elements, their humours and their temperaments does not agree with the information provided on the Four Temperaments page which, for example, says that the Sanguine Temperament is associated with Air, not Water as described by the table on this page.
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