Talk:Hungry ghost

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Elijah?[edit]

This is an interesting article. I'm no expert on the Judaic tradition, but suspect that someone who is would be surprised by the categorisation of the thirsty spirit of Elijah as a hungry ghost. Is the concept more one of the covenant with Jahweh and the community of Judaism? Would it be more appropriate to move this short subsection to a footnote? Dlyons493 09:17, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Hindu/Buddhist concept[edit]

Can't say this article is very helpful. I was searching for the (rather specific) "hungry ghost" concept found in Hindu/Buddhism and got this wacky piece instead. I understand that there may be some neat parallels between diff. cultures' ghost mythology, but this seems like some opinion essay more than an encyclopedia entry. Has there been disscussion of this in mainstream religous study circles or something? Some citations would be nice... At least put the orthodox info at the top or the article and keep the(admittedly interesting) noodling near the end.Ithaqua 07:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I've added some cited quotations from a Buddhist Psychology perspective to flesh this out, but I totally agree. Mixing different concepts from different cultures just because they've all been lossily translated into English as some form of ghost is silly. I've suggested merging the main meat of related concepts from this article with Preta. The rest should probably go to their own pages, with this becoming a disambig page. Jel

The Hindu concept of pret is not the same as the Chinese hungry ghost which is related to the Budhist pret which in iteself (like Budhism) is based on Hinduism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.86.213.1 (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Error[edit]

This sentence is completely wrong: "In Hindu tradition, much as described in the Book of Enoch...". Needs to be fixed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.3.108.41 (talk) 05:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Gaki and Jikininki[edit]

Gaki (餓鬼) "have been cursed with an insatiable hunger for a particular substance or object. Traditionally, this is something repugnant or humiliating, such as human corpses..." and Jikininki (食人鬼 "man-eating ghosts") "are the spirits of greedy, selfish or impious individuals who are cursed after death to seek out and eat human corpses," this would suggest that Jikiniki are a subset of Gaki. Are there qualities that differentiate Gaki from Jikininki? Do the traditions arise from different time periods or regions of Japan? Do Gaki just happen to sometimes also feed on human corpses? Would someone address these questions please? Tumacama (talk) 03:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Article topic[edit]

It turns out that "hungry ghost" can have two meanings:

We have two meanings and two articles, hence this one is superfluous. It is in effect a WP:CFORK of Preta. Hence the proposal for merge+disambiguate. --dab (𒁳) 12:06, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Merged. Merger with Preta pending.Xufanc (talk) 07:00, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
OPPOSE "Hungry Ghost" is the commone name in the Chinese context. Even the proposer says that there are "two meanngs" and this argues that there need to be two articles.ch (talk) 19:23, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Japan?[edit]

Should Japan be mentioned in the intro? Or should there be a separate article for Japanese hungry ghosts? Interestingly all the artistic/religious/painting representations of ghosts in the article are from Japan (and in very Japanese style), while from China there are only pictures of the ghost festival. Aren't there any Chinese depictions? bamse (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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