Talk:Hurricane Betsy

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Katrina[edit]

"Betsy is often compared to 2005's Hurricane Katrina"

You mean in the last week? Give me a f***ing break. Let's wait for some time to pass before we say what is often compared to what, eh? --68.253.253.62 18:57, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes it was compared, but Katrina was far worse. CrazyC83 04:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

It would be more appropriate to compare Katrina to Hurricane Camille in 1969, which made landfall in approximately the same two areas: the mouth of the Mississippi River and the gulf coast of Mississippi. While Camille was a more powerful storm, it was not as large as Katrina, therefore its damage was contained within a smaller land area. But the same cities that were virtually erased by Katrina -- Waveland, Pass Christian, Bay St. Louis, Biloxi and Gulfport -- had suffered a similar fate during Camille. --MattButts 11:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Track similar to Andrew?[edit]

They both started in about the same place, and both crossed Florida and then went into Louisiana, but the weird loops, and the long northern trek that Betsy took makes me question this statement:

Hurricane Andrew in 1992 also followed a very similar path.

Comments? DavidH 04:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, lots of devastating hurricanes have struck both South Florida and the Mississippi River Delta, including the 1926 Miami Hurricane and the 1947 Fort Lauderdale Hurricane and Hurricane Katrina. I wouldn't say Betsy was any more alike to andrew than any given 2 of those 5 hurricanes are alike. Jdorje 00:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Todo[edit]

First think is probably references. Jdorje 00:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't even mention impact in Florida. I lowered it to start. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Here's a pic of the storm over the western Atlantic Ocean. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Katrina[edit]

 I think that the comparison to Betsy is quite valid.

In the wake of Katrina it is, if for no better reason than to show the highly questionable results in the so-called "official" Katrina report. I've heard countless times the mantra that had Katrina taken the course Betsy took, it would have been SO much worse! Excuse me? According to the "official report" Katrina was just that, a "Betsy" which swerved slightly east instead of west. The alleged winds in the official report show Katrina as having max windspeeds at landfall comparable (if not slightly LOWER) than those of Betsy, and both were enormous in size and came from the same direction. This leaves one to conclude that either those who say that had Katrina taken a Betsy path it would have truly been doomsday for New Orleans have some serious egg on their face because Betsy WAS a Katrina that took such a path; OR perhaps, just perhaps, they've UNDER classified Katrina. In view of the WIND as well as water damage I've seen, it is almost certainly the former. Katrina, like Andrew, will be revisited with hopefully more realistic data and conclusions! The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .


Category Confirmation[edit]

Is it at all possible Betsy was a category five? It reached 155mph, one mph away from five. I was just wondering since it occured in the early stages of accurate hurricane tracking. Cyclone1 19:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

It's certainly possible. However, the 155 mph figure is an estimate. It is also possible the estimate was too high, due to the somewhat infancy of the reconaissance program. Hurricanehink 20:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Trivia section[edit]

Removed the trivia section. I had put in the statement about loops in Betsy's track at some point. The information about Katrina's track being similar seems confusing, since Katrina originated in the Bahamas, Betsy formed much farther out in the Atlantic. I'm preserving the deleted section here:

Unusually, Betsy's track included not one but two complete loops.
Betsy is comparable to 2005's Hurricane Katrina, which followed a similar path but caused more extensive damage and casualties in New Orleans. Numerous other highly-destructive hurricanes, including Hurricane Andrew, the 1947 Fort Lauderdale Hurricane, and the 1926 Miami Hurricane, have also followed very similar paths.

DavidH 08:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC) Pmooter (talk) 20:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello all, I was wondering if anyone would like to add a section somewhere about the ship Amaryllis that was washed up on the beach of Singer Island during this storm? There's a Youtube video showing it (starts around :55) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8tsc7s8tnc, and some information at my blog at http://trimoot.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/the-amaryllis/. Of all my post this one has gotten the most hits and continues to as that time in our life's was pretty special on Singer Island. Thanks. Paul Pmooter (talk) 20:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Deaths[edit]

Can we have a deaths-by-state table? http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdeadlyapp1.shtml lists FL and LA as the states of note. — jdorje (talk) 05:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Popular Culture References[edit]

I've added a reference to Betsy in popular song to the Betsy page twice, and it was deleted both times. Just wondering why. Pages on other serious topics contain references of this sort-- see, for instance, the page on President James Garfield's assassin, Charles Guiteau, which lists two songs which reference Guiteau in the "Trivia" section. So why not here?

--Jbushnell 23:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

We consider it not very notable, first, and not important enough for an article on the storm. It could, however, go into an article on Tropical cyclones in popular culture (if created, which has been proposed as a moved version of List of fictional tropical cyclones). Hurricanehink (talk) 00:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


Damage USD Amounts[edit]

The adjusted amount of damage caused by the storm is off by about 1-2 billion from the top highlight box to the main article text. I don't know which one is correct. I just wanted to point out the inconstancy. C. Kilpatrick 10:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Inconsistency?[edit]

Lead para: "As it was mistakenly known as the first hurricane to cause over a billion dollars in damage..."

"Impact" section: "Betsy was the first hurricane to cause damage in excess of $1 billion..."

Which is correct? And if the "mistakenly" one is, then why was the mistake made?

Finally... how come this Talk page is protected? The history doesn't look as though there's been vandalism. Loganberry (Talk) 02:44, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

OK, ignore the last bit. I was told it was protected when I first read it, but now that seems to have gone. The other questions stand, though. Loganberry (Talk) 02:46, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

"Mistakenly"[edit]

The lede of this article says Betsy was mistakenly considered the first hurricane to cause over a billion dollars in damage. The question is, which hurricane caused a billion dollars in damage before Betsy? HurricaneFan25 21:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Diane 55. However, it's debated which one is the true first billion dollar storm. With inflation, Diane reached $1 billion total before Betsy caused $1 billion. Betsy is the true first, especially since the project doesn't deal with inflation any more, but there are sources that would support Diane. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:30, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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