Talk:Hurricane Karen (2007)

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Good articleHurricane Karen (2007) has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Can be seen here. Miranda 01:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

What is a good article?[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): (minor)
  3. It is broad in its coverage
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    a (fair representation): b (all significant views): (see references)
  5. It is stable.
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): N/A c (non-free images have fair use rationales): N/A
  7. Overall:
    a Pass/Fail:

Post Analysis Review[edit]

Issue addressed
Issue not addressed

GA Review for Hurricane Karen (2007)[edit]

General Notes[edit]

Issue addressed miranda 00:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Try to avoid using "it"
  • In a compound sentence, the sentence is "SV, and SV". When there are multiple verbs, the sentence should read "SV and V" without a comma.


Issue addressed miranda 01:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Might want to shorten the sentence to "was the fourth hurricane" with the hyperlink on hurricane. There are many different types of "storms". Not an issue. miranda 21:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
This is a run on. May want to break the sentence up into two before "and briefly".
  • It was never a threat to land.
May want to take the sentence out. Kind of personal knowledge
  • Additional comment - May want to say how long the storm lasted. Like: The storm lasted X days.

Storm History[edit]

Neutral - This never really was an issue, just a suggestion. miranda 22:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
  • May want to split into two sections: (before and after)

First Paragraph[edit]

Issue addressed (weak) I had to do some copyediting. miranda 00:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • It was not well-organized with only scattered thunderstorm activity, but had a large area of low pressure associated with it.
Take out the word it. For the subject replace "The hurricane".
  • May want to provide one or two sentences on the previous hurricane.
  • As the system tracked westward south of Cape Verde, deep convection gradually increased and curved banding features became defined, as well as a poorly-defined circulation.
X and Y, and Z should be X, Y, and Z
  • Take out "thereafter"
  • Little change in organization took place thereafter until the evening of September 24, when the low-level circulation and banding features became better defined as the system tracked west-northwest.
Wordy. Please break this up into two sentences
  • The Dvorty estimates: Please reveal to me and the reader what they found out with the results.
  • Only one cite for this paragraph.
  • Please hyperlink tropical depression to let the reader know what a tropical depression is.

Second Paragraph[edit]

Issue addressed miranda 00:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The depression quickly intensified into early on September 25 as the system continued to organize, and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Karen that morning.[2]

  • During the morning of September 25, the tropical depression quickly intensified while continuing to organize. In the same morning, the storm was upgraded to Tropical Storm Karen.[2]
The "tropical depression"; also I don't like the wording of this sentence. Please change it to the above.
I corrected some run-ons in this paragraph.

Third Paragraph[edit]

Issue addressed miranda 01:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • At the same time, the center of circulation became exposed at times due to the southwesterly wind shear, with an unusual wind field in that the strongest winds were recorded well to the east and to the northwest of the center.[8]
  • Some of the vorticity from Karen's remnants may have been responsible for the development of the short-lived Tropical Depression Fifteen on October 11.[14]
This should belong in the section labeled "impact".


Issue addressed miranda 01:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • with one forecaster noting a 5% probability for the cyclone
I looked at the source, and the source said ".5%"
  • However, Karen remained in the open Atlantic Ocean during its lifespan and never affected any land areas; no damage or casualties were reported.
Any news reports to back this up? This is kind of OR.


Issue addressed miranda 22:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Can you find other sources other than the Weather Service?
I added a Reuters cite. miranda 21:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Due to the evaluation above, I decided to put this GA nom on hold. You have seven days (Dec. 31) to improve this article. After the elapsed time period, I will re-assess to see if any improvement has been made to the article. miranda 01:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


Post-Analysis Decision (7/0/1)[edit]

Seven out of eight (with one neutral) issues have been addressed and corrected. Thus, this article is promoted to GA status. Congrats! SCongratulate.gif miranda 01:12, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


It's a short-lived fish hurricane... ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done, merged. --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 13:33, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
You have to delist it as a GA first. Reverted for now. – Juliancolton | Talk 15:40, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
This is a GT so I don't see any point in a merger, but this definitely wouldn't have an article if the storm occurred today. YE Pacific Hurricane 19:59, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Merge (2nd)[edit]

This is a short-lived storm with no imapcts on land, @CrazyC83, Hurricanehink, Miranda, and Juliancolton: pinging the main editors of the article. -- (talk) 05:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

See above, the page is a GA so not really a point in a merger... --MarioProtIV (talk/contribs) 10:26, 18 May 2017 (UTC)