Talk:Husayn ibn Ali

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Imamate[edit]

Best greetings, I edited/modified the part of Imamate (to eliminate its previous problem), its new/edited text is as follow:

Imamate

When Hassan (as the 2nd Shia Imam) was killed, Al-Husayn became his successor as the third Imam of Shia Islam.

Proofs of Imamate

There are traditions (quoted from Muhammad) which name Hussain as Imam and even mention the number of all Imams, who are started by Ali (1st), Hassan (2nd), Hussain (as the third Imam) and other named Imams.[1][2][3]As another reason, (Imam) Hassan willed Hussain as his successor.[4][5]

In order to proving his Imamate, some sources rely on his speech, and likewise some sources refer to a part of his miracles to demonstrate that.[6][7]

References

  1. ^ Joveini, 1400: Vol.2, P.319; Konduzi, ibid, Vol.3, Bab93,P.160
  2. ^ Konduzi, Yanabi' al-Muwadat, p. 431
  3. ^ Tazkeratul-Foqahaa, Allamah Helli, Vol.1, P.254, Publisher: Publication of the library of Mortazvi Le-Ahyaa al-Aathaar al-Ja’fariah
  4. ^ Ibn al-a'tham al-Kufi, al-Fatuh, 1991, Vol. 4, P. 319
  5. ^ Kulayni, al-Kafi, 1401 AH, Vol.1, P.301-302
  6. ^ Sheikh Saduq, Ayoun Akhbar Al-Reza,1363(Solar),vol.1, p.68, Khazaz Razi, Kefaayat-al’asar (al’thar), (1401 lunar), p.230-234.
  7. ^ Tabarsi, A’lam al-vari, ba’lam al-Mahdi, 1417 (lunar), vol.1, p.423

Ali Ahwazi (talk) 07:58, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Copyright issue[edit]

@HyperGaruda: Are your concerns regarding the copy right issues of "Imamate" section resolved? A user says that he has cleaned the section. Please remove the tag, if every thing is OK. --Mhhossein talk 13:19, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Ah, oops. Didn't notice someone had checked it. --HyperGaruda (talk) 14:14, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Selected Sayings of Imam Husayn ibn Ali[edit]

the word "free" in the quotation "If you do not believe in any religion, and do not fear the Day of Resurrection, then at least be free in this world." is supposed to be the translation of the word "احرارا". The exact sentence of Imam Husayn ibn Ali was "«فَصَاحَ‏ وَیْلَکُمْ یَا شِیعَةَ آلِ أَبِی سُفْیَانَ إِنْ لَمْ یَکُنْ لَکُمْ دِینٌ وَ کُنْتُمْ لَا تَخَافُونَ الْمَعَادَ فَکُونُوا أَحْرَاراً فِی دُنْیَاکُم"[1] which was said when he was surrounded by Yazid armi, being the last man of his front, and many soldiers of the Yazid Army were preparing a raid on his women and children, so he asked them not to attack others. In another reference a more complete version of the quotation is cited as "فَصَاحَ الْحُسَیْنُ ع وَیْحَکُمْ یَا شِیعَةَ الشَّیْطَانِ إِنْ لَمْ یَکُنْ لَکُمْ دِینٌ وَ لَا تَخَافُونَ الْمَعَادَ فَکُونُوا أَحْرَاراً وَ ارْجِعُوا إِلَى أَنْسَابِکُمْ إِنْ کُنْتُمْ أَعْرَاباً کَمَا تَزْعُمُونَ أَنَا الَّذِی أُقَاتِلُکُم فَکُفُّوا سُفَهَاءَکُمْ وَ جُهَّالَکُم‏" [2]which paints a better picture of what the word Ahrar was supposed to mean.

All in all better translations for Ahrar can be: honorable, noble, or even "faithful to your morals".

free by no means can be a good translation of "Ahrar"

  1. ^ Al-Lohoof Ala Al-Qatli Al-tafoof, Ali ibn Musa (Sayyed ibn Tawus), p.120
  2. ^ Kashf-o al-Qama fi Al-marefatah Al-aemmah, Ali ibn Isa Armaly, vol.2, p.150