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Too Positive[edit]

This article has the stink of advertisement. It lacks citations for many claims. The tiny piece of criticism that (obviously) IBM has allowed to remain is watered down with "in previous versions", etc. I suspect any negative or less than positive additions would quickly be removed by IBM. A wikipedia admin should mark this page as an advertisement. Martiniano (talk) 22:22, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Just want to support you in that statement. For me, it's quite hard to imagine that this article could ever become "negative enough". When that's said, I'm currently using IBM Lotus Notes, which is... well, I won't even try to critize it. I don't have words bad enough to do it justice... Tslupphaug (talk) 11:48, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Please stop these conspiracy theories about IBM. I am a Notes user too, and find the article reasonably balanced. Yes, many people find Notes hard to work with, but all in all it does work. There's already a section "Reception" (which might be renamed "Criticism") - so it's not like criticism is absent right now. If you want to add information about problems, go ahead - I don't think objective and sourced criticism will be removed. Sebastian (talk) 07:38, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Number of installed seats[edit]

"Since that time, the installed base of Lotus Notes has nearly tripled from an estimated 42 million seats in September 1998 to more than 120 million in 2006."

I don't see a source for these figures. The number seems rather inflated - - are these 120 million seats counting R6 and R7 upgrades twice? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 10:45, April 12, 2006 (UTC)

Someone please edit "Nowadays..."[edit]

"Nowadays Java is also integrated in Lotus Notes, as is JavaScript." This sounds horrible. I'm not a writer, so please, someone fix this sentence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 16:15, January 27, 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 11:40, February 1, 2006 (UTC)


It is definitely a cool tool to build a Wiki with...! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 12:20, March 23, 2006 (UTC)

Elided comments about Notes as an email client[edit]

The comments don't seem to be supported except by reference to the site - hardly NPOV. Added to list of external links. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 16:13, March 28, 2006 (UTC)

this might be a stupid question[edit]

What's the difference b/tw Lotus Notes with Messaging User License and Lotus Notes with Collaboration User License? Like the subject reads, this might be a stupid question, but I've never encountered this software, and I'm one of those non-techy types.

Messaging user license seems to require your have a server license as well for each CPU, Collab. User Lic. license covers both server and client, but is limited in size of userbase and some of the notes multi server features are not available. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 14:35, June 6, 2006 (UTC)

--RhsAtRhs 19 Aug 2006 -- You are confusing two questions. First there's Messaging vs. Collaboration licensing. Second, there's regular vs. "Express" licensing. Messaging lets you use mail, calendar, and some simple IBM-supplied application templates. Collaboration lets you use everything just mentioned, plus custom applications developed in-house, by consultants, or by ISVs. Customers can buy either Messaging or Collaboration liceneses in either of two ways. Anyone can buy the regular way, which involves paying per server CPU and per client. Customers with 1000 or fewer seats can buy "Express" licenses (either Messaging Express or Collaboration Express), which involves paying only for client licenses because servers are free in this license model.

Can Lotus Notes be used at home?[edit]

I am told that the drawback to using Lotus Notes at the office is that some people can't access it from their home computer. True? False? What are the details on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 00:14, October 22, 2006 (UTC)

--RhsAtRhs 23 Oct 2006 --False. Notes was explicitly designed for remote access and off-line work. It has a very long history of offering multiple solutions for support of users who are not connected to the same network as their servers. It had its own dial-in mechanism, its own encrypted network connections and its own indirect access (called "passthrough servers") long before LAN dial-in, VPN solutions and reverse proxies were generally available for other solutions. And Domino has supported web access to mail and applications since 1996. So, the only reasons someone wouldn't be able to use Notes from home are: (a) they don't have a computer, and (b) their company won't let them.

Notes is a DBMS[edit]

The authors lack RDBMS knowledge. DBMS means ANY db mgmt system, not relational, and Notes has a DBMS. I also removed mistaken descriptions of RDBMS. "Relational" has nothing to do with parent-child or index/key, it means that tables are RELATIONS or TUPLES.

I added Notes/Domino to the Database category. I would love for somebody to figure out exactly what KIND of database Notes NSF is - I know it is one, but does it fit into any academic category? Certainly it's multi-value and object like.

Charles Ross —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 12 June 2007, 07:44 (GMT).

Notes is similar in structure to Hypercard. I do not have an accurate academic description but that description may trigger one for someone else.

Evisionary (talk) 01:17, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't say the authors "lack RDBMS knowledge". Lotus Notes databases can be made relational and can interact with relational databases if that is desired, however it is not required with Notes, as relational data structures carry impracticalities and overhead. Notes is not very "academic" in terms of categorizing it, but more practical for business/workflow apps. You could whip up something more specific to your needs with Notes without having to worry about third normal form etc. Other advantages offered by the platform extend beyond what the category of "database" offers. DavidBoudreau (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)


I noticed that the default sound for an incoming new email is identical to the sound my Thunderbird makes. The functionalities are also very simmilar to my Thunderbird with a few Plug-Ins. Is it possible that some Thunderbird Code was used when this system was developed? I cannot find anything about it on the page. Mozilla is mentioned in the aricle, but there is a difference between "adopted leading design techniques and prevailing user interface and navigation paradigms" and using the code directly. Thunderbird is Open Souce, so there is probably no problem with using their code (depending on which kind of License they are using), but if they do I would like to know about it in this aricle. Does anyone know more about this?--Do ut des (talk) 11:55, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Related software[edit]

Why there are two "Related software" sections? (talk) 06:35, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, there's only one section now.Sebastian (talk) 07:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)