Talk:Iceland

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Former good article nominee Iceland was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Location maps available for infoboxes of European countries[edit]

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, the section Location Maps for European countries had shown new maps created by David Liuzzo, that are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed soon at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish two things: Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 00:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Iceland Economic Data[edit]

It seems like inflation data hasn't been updated in awhile, nor unemployment. I updated the icelandic krona page with a new inflation rate as of May/June 2010. Asking for help on the main Iceland page seemed a better idea then requesting help finding reputable sources on the individual pages. --Anonymous User, Who has yet to make an account.

  • You may not know this but a portion of iceland belongs to the tip of greenland before it was flipped. Greenland extended into a point basically when it was in the north and westjfords belongs to that land, not to iceland. There is even geological proof near the region of asgard sund.

Urban nuclei in Iceland[edit]

Pop as of 2015, January 1st

  1. Reykjavík pop: 120879
  2. Kópavogur pop: 33181
  3. Hafnarfjörður pop: 27870
  4. Akureyri pop: 17915
  5. Keflavík og Njarðvík pop: 14821
  6. Garðabær pop: 11885
  7. Mosfellsbær pop: 8948
  8. Selfoss pop: 6767
  9. Akranes pop: 6754
  10. Seltjarnarnes pop: 4411
  11. Vestmannaeyjar pop: 4272
  12. Grindavík pop: 2991
  13. Sauðárkrókur pop: 2536
  14. Ísafjörður pop: 2525
  15. Álftanes pop: 2498
  16. Hveragerði pop: 2382
  17. Egilsstaðir pop: 2319
  18. Húsavík pop: 2184
  19. Borgarnes pop: 1865
  20. Höfn í Hornafirði pop: 1665
  21. Sandgerði pop: 1545
  22. Neskaupstaður pop: 1510
  23. Þorlákshöfn pop: 1460
  24. Garður pop: 1425
  25. Dalvík pop: 1370
  26. Siglufjörður pop: 1219
  27. Reyðarfjörður pop: 1180
  28. Stykkishólmur pop: 1103
  29. Vogar pop: 1035
  30. Eskifjörður pop: 1026
  31. Ólafsvík pop: 976
  32. Hvolsvöllur pop: 934
  33. Bolungarvík pop: 906
  34. Grundarfjörður pop: 855
  35. Hella pop: 830
  36. Blönduós pop: 793
  37. Ólafsfjörður pop: 782
  38. Patreksfjörður pop: 682
  39. Fáskrúðsfjörður pop: 671
  40. Seyðisfjörður pop: 639
  41. Grundarhverfi á Kjalarnesi pop: 565
  42. Hvammstangi pop: 543
  43. Vopnafjörður pop: 528
  44. Eyrarbakki pop: 495
  45. Skagaströnd pop: 480
  46. Stokkseyri pop: 441
  47. Flúðir pop: 419
  48. Fellabær pop: 404
  49. Hellissandur pop: 378
  50. Þórshöfn pop: 358
  51. Hólmavík pop: 337
  52. Djúpivogur pop: 331
  53. Vík í Mýrdal pop: 293
  54. Tálknafjörður pop: 286
  55. Svalbarðseyri pop: 283
  56. Suðureyri pop: 278
  57. Hrafnagil pop: 276
  58. Búðardalur pop: 274
  59. Grenivík pop: 274
  60. Hvanneyri pop: 260
  61. Þingeyri pop: 252
  62. Reykholt í Biskupstungum pop: 236
  63. Byggðakjarni í Mosfellsdal pop: 225
  64. Bifröst pop: 208
  65. Flateyri pop: 206
  66. Stöðvarfjörður pop: 198
  67. Bíldudalur pop: 196
  68. Hnífsdalur pop: 194
  69. Raufarhöfn pop: 183
  70. Súðavík pop: 173
  71. Hrísey pop: 172
  72. Rif pop: 163
  73. Laugarvatn pop: 163
  74. Hofsós pop: 161
  75. Reykjahlíð pop: 156
  76. Kirkjubæjarklaustur pop: 140
  77. Reykhólar pop: 132
  78. Laugar pop: 128
  79. Breiðdalsvík pop: 128
  80. Varmahlíð pop: 121
  81. Melahverfi í Hvalfirði pop: 120
  82. Kópasker pop: 114
  83. Sólheimar í Grímsnesi pop: 111
  84. Hauganes pop: 110
  85. Litli-Árskógssandur pop: 108
  86. Tjarnabyggð pop: 104
  87. Laugarás pop: 103
  88. Hafnir pop: 100
  89. Lónsbakki pop: 99
  90. Borg í Grímsnesi pop: 96
  91. Borgarfjörður eystri pop: 88
  92. Bakkafjörður pop: 86
  93. Drangsnes pop: 83
  94. Árbæjarhverfi í Ölfusi pop: 79
  95. Brúnahlíð í Eyjafirði pop: 78
  96. Grímsey pop: 76
  97. Nesjahverfi í Hornafirði pop: 76
  98. Hólar í Hjaltadal pop: 67
  99. Innnes pop: 60
  100. Rauðalækur pop: 57
  101. Brautarholt á Skeiðum pop: 57
  102. Kristnes pop: 55
  103. Byggðakjarni í Þykkvabæ pop: 53
  104. Kleppjárnsreykir pop: 51
  105. Laugarbakki pop: 47

Urban nuclei in Iceland / rural (Strjálbýli)

  1. Suðurland pop: 4874
  2. Norðurland eystra pop: 3231
  3. Vesturland pop: 2499
  4. Norðurland vestra pop: 2389
  5. Austurland pop: 1733
  6. Höfuðborgarsvæðið pop: 820
  7. Vestfirðir pop: 720
  8. Suðurnes pop: 109

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The back & forth minor edit war about what continent Iceland is in, and what a continent is[edit]

Yesterday I reverted an old edit of User:Erp's to change "[... and usually considered part of Europe" to just "[a country in] Europe".

This set of a minor edit war, User:Erp changed the page to now note in the intro that Iceland is geologically on two plates. This was then undone by User:DavidWBrooks saying it cluttering up the intro, and today User:Al-Andalus made an edit claiming the country is transcontinental, which I just reverted saying that we should discuss this here rather than continue this back & forth (also, the linked-to article itself contradicts this edit)

As far as I can tell Iceland has always been considered part of Europe, and I suspect that this recent trend of talking about Iceland as being on the boundary of two continents is something that's been spread by Iceland's tourist industry, which likes to make that claim for marketing purposes. Plate tectonics are not how continents are defined, e.g. nobody makes the claim that Japan is partly in North America because around half of it is on the NA plate, or that Italy is partly in Africa on the basis of being (according to some sources) partly on the African plate.

But obviously some of you disagree with that assessment. But I think we can all agree that it's better to get to the bottom of this here rather than continue this back and forth, and that whetever the article does say about what continent Iceland is in that should be sourced and not just be our respective opinions. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 19:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

This has been debated before (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Iceland/Archive_3#Iceland_is_not_in_Europe). I agree that its location on the plate boundary is of secondary interest - geological but nothing more - and does not affect its European-ness. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:33, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Indeed. Iceland is a very big oceanic island, so strictly speaking is not actually "on" any continent (by normal definitions of what a continent is). But I think we can safely say it is a European island. It's not like Cyprus or Greenland which are actually geographically situated on the continental shelf of a different continent. Rob984 (talk) 00:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Having delved into this and read a few 10,000s of words on the subject, most of them by Icelanders or persons of Nordic descent, I get the impression that Icelanders themselves overwhelmingly consider themselves "European", with certain reservations, so I added some sources. Carlstak (talk) 02:03, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Politically and culturally Icelanders are European. Geologically it is split between the Eurasian and North American plate. Hmm, perhaps drop one of the two mentions of Europe in the first couple of sentence; Nordic is enough to imply Europe and then Europe is mentioned later when talking about its population density.

Iceland is a Nordic island country located in the the North Atlantic Ocean. It has a population of 332,529 and an area of 103,000 km2 (40,000 sq mi), making it the most sparsely populated country in Europe. The capital and largest city, Reykjavík, is in the southwest of the country and that region is home to over two-thirds of the population. Because of Iceland's location on the Mid-Atlantic ridge, the boundary between the Eurasian and North American plates, it is geologically active with much volcanic activity....

I would also start a new paragraph when we discuss the geology of Iceland. Thoughts? --Erp (talk) 03:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Saying "because <location on NA/EU plates> it's geologically active" is inaccurate. It's saying by proxy that just by being an island on a ridge boundary or that particular ridge boundary would make it volcanic. That's not the case, as can be seen in the relevant article e.g. the Saint Peter and Saint Paul Archipelago is not volcanic. Now, you might say that while it's on the same ridge it's on the SA/Africa plate boundary, not the NA/EU one, but from my (admittedly limited) understanding of geology that's just a coincidence. It's not a given that islands on any divergent plate boundary are volcanic, and thus this is overly verbose and misleads the reader.
I think that even if this were true it still shouldn't be included due to being overly verbose. The current article just leaves this at "Iceland is volcanically and geologically active" and discusses some of the details in the geology section. It seems that this whole thing started out of some mistaken assumption that only-recently (1960ish) plate boundaries had anything to do with what the established and historically agreed-upon definitions of continents, and now that that's shown not to be the case I don't see why some relative trivia about plate boundaries should be mentioned so prominently at all. I think it's about as interesting as the fact that Iceland is also on the north-south boundaries of two prevailing wind patterns, which is also something that probably should be discussed /somewhere/, but if it were discussed in the intro could be left at the equivalent of "Iceland is quite windy" --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 19:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason's points. I also think Erp is correct that the mention of Iceland's geology needs a new paragraph. Carlstak (talk) 03:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
(short side track here) Isn't "volcanically and geologically active" a bit redundant? I also note that "volcanically" links to the article high island which seems to have little to do with Iceland. At a minimum drop "volcanically" (end side track). However Iceland is of particular interest to geologists and many others because of its location on the ridge; I note the Britannica article starts "Iceland, island country located in the North Atlantic Ocean. Lying on the constantly active geologic border between North America and Europe,..." so we aren't talking about something seen as minor. BTW the Saint Peter and Saint Paul Archipelago do get earthquakes so they are geologically active (just not volcanic). --Erp (talk) 03:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Iceland is a very large volcanic oceanic island located on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
Mid-atlantic ridge map.png
. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
"Volcanically and geologically active" isn't redundant and only mentioning one would be less clear. Volcanism is just one aspect of geological activity. E.g. Iceland has regular earthquakes, hot springs and geysers etc. All of these are signs of geological activity that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with volcanism. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 13:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Volcanically active is a subset of geologically active so sayings something like "geologically active with multiple volcanoes, hot springs, geysers and regular earthquakes..." --Erp (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Categorisation by continent[edit]

User:FallingGravity, is Iceland in Europe? [1] This question almost hurts. For categories, it is yes or no, no nuance, no explanation, no fine text. Geography? No. Everything else almost, yes. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:19, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

@SmokeyJoe: Reference.com says: "Geographically, Iceland is split between the North American and European continents; politically, Iceland is a part of the European continent." I'm not sure which is more important here (geography or politics) but either way it is in Europe. FallingGravity 07:27, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
I reckon only part of Iceland is part of Europe, and that's a stretch. However, I don't want to dispute the categorisation, I think politics is very important, but did want to record it here in case others do, especially given the above thread. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)