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Energy in Iceland was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 13, 2007	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
August 27, 2007	Good article nominee	Listed
April 5, 2018	Good article reassessment	Delisted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 2, 2007. The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that Iceland leads the world in renewable energy* and is the first country to supply all electricity from renewable sources?*
Current status: Delisted good article

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A good dog[edit]

I don't think it is accurate to state that Iceland leads the world in the production of renewable energy. Even though it probably is the country that proportionally uses more renewable sources, I think the lead would have to go to the absolute producer, or none of them. Brazil hydreletric powerplants produced 335.076 GWh in 2006 (approximately 30 million Tpe), and its total renewable energy produced in 2006 was approximately 100 million tpe. see http://www.mme.gov.br/site/menu/select_main_menu_item.do?channelId=1432&pageId=7523 (sorry it's in portuguese). Iceland, on the other hand, produces a total 2,5 million tpe of renewable energy, as can be seen in http://www.os.is/page/energy_use --Ezadarque 03:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 2007[edit]

"The first municipal hydroelectric plant was built in 1921, and it could produce 1 MW of power." - This is not true. The first municipal hydroelectric plant was built in Seydisfjordur in 1913 and is still in production. However the 1921 plant in Reykjavik was of big importance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.111.132 (talk • contribs) 06:35, July 1, 2007

Good article nomination on hold[edit]

One of the strengths of this article is the good coverage of Hydrogen issues. The historical aspects of Hydropower and Geothermal are also well covered, but I felt that there could have been more discussion of recent trends and installations with hydro and geothermal. Please expand.

The {fact} tags in the lead section need to be attended to or, if you can't find an appropriate citation, then the associated sentences should be removed.

English expression was generally good, but I found this sentence to be confusing:

The Iceland government also believes that there are many more untapped geothermal sources throughout the country. It is estimated that over 20 Twh of unharnessed geothermal energy is available. If both sources were tapped to there full extent Iceland would have 50 Twh of energy, all from renewable sources.[11]

When you say "both sources" what are you referring to? Hydro and geothermal? This needs to be made clear.

I'm putting this article on hold as the article is close to GA status, however the issues noted above must be dealt with before GA status can be awarded. I hope that this can be addressed within the seven days allowed by on hold, and wish you all the best with your editing... -- Johnfos 23:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed the {fact} tags and rephrased the paragraph in question. I hope this article gets GA! Max Naylor 11:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article[edit]

Congratulations, this article now meets all of the GA criteria! Johnfos 22:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality?[edit]

I think there is a very serious neutrality issue here, no opponents of the developments are referenced. 1 in 20 Icelanders (circa 15000)took to the streets to protest this last August for instance. Karahnjukar was opposed by the RSPB and FoE Europe 87.74.79.170 14:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article is meant to communicate what currently exists in terms of renewable energy in Iceland in terms of technical aspects, not necessarily to address the social, cultural, political or potential implications of such energy. If the power plant or whatever was constructed and operates today, then it is not very relevant to discuss the opposition to something that already physically exists. The article in no way advocates renewable energy as a "good" or a life-saver for the island, only that Islanders have developed renewable energy. I also am against this article talking about "proposed" projects especially when they are not under construction and merely proposed. WP is not a Crystal Ball and what is relevant today for this article should be included. If you want, I suggest going to a more generic article on Iceland and proposing its inclusion there. 75.72.162.175 08:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First energy independent country?[edit]

This would make Iceland the first completely energy-independent country in the world

Really? I can't see places like Saudi Arabia being particularly dependent on any other country for energy. 61.69.2.133 (talk) 06:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Question[edit]

I don't see how the article says 89% of energy is from renewable resources and that of the remaining ~10%, most is from geothermal energy. Isn't geothermal energy considered renewable? I mean, it's listed under Wikipedia's renewable energy header. So perhaps it should say ~99% is renewable with ~9% being from geothermal? Please clarify 174.101.224.4 (talk) 16:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've revised the lead to try to eliminate any confusion. See what you think. Johnfos (talk) 18:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

The first two references on the page take me to a password protected site, and a "page not found" respectively. Reference number one is used as the inline citation for the following sentence "Renewable energy provides 100 percent of electricity production, with about 70 percent coming from hydropower and 30 percent from geothermal power". That is a pretty bold assertion and needs a source that can be viewed by people who may not have access to password protected Icelandic documents. Perhaps new references should be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.230.25.197 (talk) 10:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The first citation ("The Energy Sector") dates from 2011, but is used to cite 2016 figures. A quick search of that article didn't reveal any figures dating from 2016; a new citation should be found to support the 2016 claims, or else the claims should revert back to the substantiated 2011 figures. 2601:187:8081:2100:40F9:175C:2CC:2184 (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GAR request[edit]

There has been a request for a GA review. This article does need some work. @Johnfos, Max Naylor, and Gralo: to see if any interest in fixing it. AIRcorn (talk) 01:19, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

GA Reassessment[edit]

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Renewable energy in Iceland/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Obvious problems with the big neutrality tag. I think that could be solvable if editors familiar with the topic looked into it. The concern seems to be the coverage given to hydrogen relative to other aspects. I will try to deal with that if no one else does during the course of the review. However, there are other concerns. Citation needed tags are sprinkled through out and the "Education and research" section is completely unsourced. There is also an issue with updating, for example we have The project ended in January 2007, and as a result of the research an improved bus prototype was expected in 2008. Details of further demonstrations involving private cars and a boat were expected in April 2007. AIRcorn (talk) 23:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delisting per above. AIRcorn (talk) 01:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 October 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Energy in Iceland by a consensus of two (but with persuasive arguments). No such user (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Renewable energy in Iceland → Energy in Iceland – Move to a more general topic title, consistent with article titles like Energy in the United Kingdom, Energy in Japan and Energy in Germany. I'm not concerned that this would necessarily result in a change of scope because energy production in Iceland is dominated by renewable energy. feminist (talk) 04:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:06, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support if we are having either one of the articles (to avoid redundancy) it should be Energy in Iceland, as it is the more general one. --Ita140188 (talk) 11:25, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.