Talk:Sultanate of Ifat

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Name[edit]

Should we add this text "The Ifat Sultanate was a medieval Somali Muslim sultanate in the Horn." ?-page 41 of Ethiopia: The Land, Its people, History and Culture

I mean the dynasty that ruled over the Ifat known as Wilinwili/ Walashma was in fact Somali from what can be surmised, Somali as this page itself notes was a widely spoken language and subsequent sultanates like the Adal largely employed Somali soldiers and so on and that book itself considers them a Somali sultanate. I don't want to add the text simply to have it deleted so do you guys want to add it? Awale-Abdi (talk) 08:29, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I added it and sourced it as well so never mind.Awale-Abdi (talk) 12:06, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Concerns?[edit]

@EthiopianHabesha: I have added a note about Nile diversion, but please note that in the fourth last line on page 40 of Pankhurst this is called an idle threat. The sentences that follow suggest that the Egyptian sultan realized this was so, then dismissed that idle threat. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

@EthiopianHabesha: This article is not about the history of Egypt and the fears of Egyptians, and that is why I did not add it. But if you feel that is relevant, go ahead add it. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 17:54, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Too much detail[edit]

Ms Sarah Welch, what is realy the point of adding all these information? To prove my summary is not good? If you think there are parts in which I summarised in bad faith (which so far you did not explain just like I did explain your paraphrasing out of context) you could have mention them here and we could have discussed about them. — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand you. Please provide diffs, when you allege something. The version you created did not reflect the sources. I have revised the article, not with you in focus. I have revised the article and added more information to more accurately summarize the sources, thus improve the article. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 13:18, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The end of Ifat sultanate[edit]

@EthiopianHabesha: If the source does not mention "Ifat sultanate", "Ifat province(s)", or something using the word Ifat, directly or as context, please do not add it to this article as that is OR and Synthesis. Unless you can identify a reliable source that states Sultanate of Ifat existed in 18th century or later, don't suggest so because that is OR. If you see support for Sultanate of Ifat and Oromo people etc discussion, please add quotes, because I don't see it. I have no objections if you add more content from additional reliable source(s) that mention / discuss the Sultanate of Ifat. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)