Talk:Imelda Marcos

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Comparison[edit]

Is Imelda Marcos the precendent for the wife of the corrupt leader who spends zillions on high fashion while natives struggle to bring food to their tables. Marcos' name has been used in comparison with Michele Duvalier and Michelle Obama. 69.143.110.86 (talk) 23:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh give it a rest. 96.41.43.212 (talk) 03:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

The inspiration for Michelle Obama? That's hilarious.--Bridgecross (talk) 15:23, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Use of name[edit]

I wonder why she is referred to by her first name Imelda and not her last name Marcos through the article ? Iselilja (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

You're right that it should be changed. Why not be bold and change it yourself? Be careful, however, not to introduce ambiguities; in sentences which could also be about her husband or son, you'll need to include some clue as to which Marcos you're referring to. There's a discussion on proper use of names in biographical articles at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies. --Alexbook (talk) 03:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
  • She is widely referred by her first name in the Philippines and in my opinion she is the proamry topic of her first name similar to Adele. Much like royalty, which she feels like she wants to be treated as such. There are numerous articles that use her first name alone, she even has a Imelda.--Theparties (talk) 03:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Symbol opinion vote.svg- Note that Theparties (talk · contribs) is a now blocked sockpuppet of indef-banned 23prootie (talk · contribs)220 of Borg 07:21, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
@Iselilja: I was wondering that myself, but when I boldly fixed the issue, [1] I was reverted! [2] Face-surprise.svg. See #Requested move 21 August 2015 below for the 'aftermath'. 220 of Borg 07:21, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Quote section?[edit]

Why is there a quote section? Mark Twain does not even have one. This seems like a bit of adulatory fluff not needed for the article.96.41.43.212 (talk) 03:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)


Symbol opinion vote.svg- All the discussions above this point were removed without any explanation in July 2015. I have 'manually' reverted those two(2) edits, so it doesn't seem to have been by mistake. 220 of Borg 06:10, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


Requested move 21 August 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) Imeldific (talk) 00:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


Imelda MarcosImelda – Because...

Imeldific (talk) 22:57, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Imeldific (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Hatting courtesy me! Face-grin.svg 220 of Borg 06:16, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Nearly every reference provided uses the name "Imelda Marcos" on first reference. We don't use headlinese for article titles. Calidum 00:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Encyclopaedia? (per AjaxSmack) Sure as hell hope so! 220 of Borg 06:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment. My edit here and move proposers edits here (basically blindly reverting my edit without any explanation) are related to the naming issue and should be of interest. 220 of Borg 06:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment. I unhatted the links in the nomination. The hatnote was messing up WP:RMCD. See [3] Calidum 07:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
No problem, but I still think it was an improvement! Face-wink.svg 220 of Borg 07:29, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Close as frivolous the number of historical figures generally known by first name only is tiny and Mrs Marcos isn't one of them. An article called 'Imelda', could be about anything, even the present redirect is probably wrong 'Imelda' should go to the name, the title there btw could be wrong, since the name is only originally Italian and includes a few places etc..Pincrete (talk) 11:41, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @Pincrete: Curiouser and curiouser! The redirect was, for over 9.5 years until 23 March 2015‎, exactly as you said. It was changed by Luvcookies (talk · contribs) who was a blocked as a sock of an indef banned editor. Very interesting! - 220 of Borg 12:07, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment № 2 - I have re-directed Imelda back to Imelda (Italian given name), so at least it no longer goes to Marcos. Wait, do I hear a Duck quacking? 220 of Borg 12:16, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment № 3 - Those ducks are now deafening! I was wondering what the username 'Imeldific' was about, see Wiktionary:Imeldific - 220 of Borg 12:29, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Fairly trivial point in the circumstances, but while we are about it, does it make sense to change Imelda (Italian given name) to Imelda (name) or plain Imelda? Unsure of protocol here.Pincrete (talk) 13:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
I submitted a technical request to reverse that not-discussed move, see here. Wbm1058 (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Sorry, Pincrete. WP:NCP and WP:NATURAL would discourage such parenthetical disambiguation using just the first name, especially when "Imelda Marcos" is fairly often used name per many books and news articles, according to Google. And the proposed title violates WP:COMMONNAME, which says ambiguous names are discouraged, even when commonly used. George Ho (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
George Ho, sorry, but just to be clear 'Imelda' now redirects to Imelda (Italian given name) (a list of uses of "Imelda", most, but not all of which are human names). My suggestions were to change Imelda (Italian given name) to either Imelda (name) or plain Imelda, ie the name/dab becomes the primary topic of 'Imelda', there being unlikely to emerge another candidate for 'one word' primary.
I think the original name change proposal (Marcos, which I also oppose) is now 'dead in the water'. Pincrete (talk) 15:55, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
My mistake; modifying my post. George Ho (talk) 16:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Citing a bunch of news articles is one thing, but the OP never gave a reasonable explanation as to why this article should become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the search term "Imelda" out of all the topics listed on the Imelda page. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress[edit]

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