Talk:Imitation of Life (1934 film)

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Regarding the placement of images in this article[edit]

I've done a fair amount of work on expanding this article, including putting in additional images. One of the problems with film articles is that presenting the cast as a list, really the best way to do it, creates a lot of whitespace to the right. That's why I like to put images there, if I can find them and make a rationale for their use. The problem with putting them all the way to the right, however, is that if the plot section isn't long enough to push the cast section down below the infobox, the images will force the cast section down, thus introducing even worse whitespace between the "Cast" header and the cast information. This may be ne evident when you view the image under a smaller resolution monitor, but with a sidescreen monitor (where the plot text takes up even less vertical space) it's quite evident. This is why when I make those kinds of changes, I check them under both monitors settings to ake sure they work -- the goal being to have the article not have interruptive blocks of whitespace in it.

User:Hru692 has been removing the formatting I've used to create this balanced presentation, thus creating one where under widescreen, disruptive whitespace is created. I've asked the editor to discuss it on their talk page, but I've received no answer. I'll post this message both on the article's talk page and on User:Hru692's talk page in the hope that the editor will come to understand the purpose of the formatting, and will stop reverting it. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 02:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, just for the record, I worked hard to find some kind of compromise, and came up with one that involved exchanging the existing poster image in the infobox with another one which was shorter, and therefore didn't create the jam up the original one did. Not only that, but it's actually a superior poster: 4-color instead of monochormatic 2-color, shaped better to fit the space (the other was long and thin an could only be used at a small size). It really was, I thought, a pretty neat solution.

Unfortunately, User:Hru692's answer was to delete the new poster, and immediately go and mark the image as orphaned, so it would be deleted.

I really have a problem in seeing this as being anything but vindictiveness. Since I can't seem to get the editor to talk (over a dozen messages now, trying), I think I'm just going to assume that there's no intention on his or her part to do so, and stop trying. If someone would like to intervene, and see if we can be brought together, I'm more than willing to do so, but otherwise... Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 10:22, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

One last try, and then I guess I have to go to seek some administrative assistance. I've replaced the replacement poster with another one with a different design, but of the same size. It therefore, again, solves the original problem that was in dispute. It's not, in my opinion, as good as the one I posted in my first attempt to reach a compromise, but it is clearly better than the original poster. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 10:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Fredi Washington in photo[edit]

When I originally posted the image that's in the cast section, I captioned it as being Louise Beavers and Fredi Washington. There was some question about whether it was Fredi Washington or Rochelle Hudson that is depicted, but I've gone back to the source [1] and confirmed: though the photo is not specifically captioned there, it's clear from the text it accompanies that it's Fredi Washington. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk / cont) 16:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Edits of User:Britneysaints[edit]

User:Britneysaints has been promoting some changes to this article which I believe are detrimental to it:

  • The text changes which Britneysaints has been promoting are ungrammatical and written in the wrong tense. They do not improve the article.
  • Britneysaints has attempted a number of times to replace a compact color lobby card image with a larger black and white poster image. Not only does the larger image take up more space in the infobox, but the image itself is not as sharp, and the lack of color (it's a black and white image of a color original) makes it more difficult to see. Both images are non-free, so there is no policy reason to prefer one over the other.
  • Britneysaints also tried to replace the color lobby card with an unreadable quasi-colored lobby card, also of inferior quality. All of these changes to the poster (and to the other images in the article) have been done without discussion, and therefore without consensus, a situation which is remarkably similar to what occured in July 2008 with User:Hru692 (see above). In that instance as well, poster choices were disputed, and the disputing party refused to discuss it, simply removing several different compromise images one after the other.

I am more than willing to talk with anyone who wishes to about changes to the article, I labor under no apprenhension that it is perfect and can not be improved, but BritneySaints needs to bring his or her arguments here so that they can be discussed and debated openly. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 04:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I will note that attempts to discuss this with Britneysaints on the user's talk page have been met with dismissive deletion of the comments left there. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 04:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)