Talk:In the Flesh (Star Trek: Voyager)

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Not so violent[edit]

What strikes me is that in every article on the internet about species 8472 (including Wikipedia) they are described as extremely violent. However Valerie Archer mentions that among the traits of humans that she regards as primitive is their violence. This got me to the conclusion that species 8472 views violence as primitive behaviour and might not be as violent as we think they are.
Codegrinder 17:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC) And the whole, "The weak shall perish" philosoph?" I'm sure they were just misquoted. Wake up. They were retconned! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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I tried to merge some of the trivia at the bottom into the main article. Problems is I don't like the way the flow of the whole thing goes. It's like jumping in and out of character. any suggestions anyone? ... Ched Davis (talk) 23:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

After a break, I came back and re-did the trivia section, and renamed it as Production notes. Also took my first shot at adding references inline as opposed to just external links at end of page. As a Trek fan, I'd be happy to see anyone else add to this article. Ched Davis (talk) 02:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

blanking section[edit]

Well, blanking an entire section wasn't my idea of "improving" an article. I know that "Reception" is considered to be an acceptable part of any TV or Movie article. I realize that it needed improvement, but delete=improve? ... Ched (talk) 17:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

With the amount of tags and resources at Wikipedia's disposal, deletion is something that should only be used sparingly. By keeping and flagging questionable content, we are encouraging other editors — and potentially even casual readers — to make constructive edits. If there is no section at all, then the chances of an increase in quality go down significantly, since there's no foundation on which to build. — Deckiller 18:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

That's all I can do for now, r/l calls. I know some of the ref. may not pass muster, but it's the best I could do on short notice, and given my current wiki-skill set. I'll revisit as resources are found, and my skills improve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ched Davis (talkcontribs) 21:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

moved from article.[edit]

I removed this bit of copy from a section as it has gone untouched or improved for some time. If the original editor (o0r anyone else) wishes to revert the edit, (I'm fine with that), I'd only ask that they would try to improve the copy a little so it's not tagged quite as much.
The following section from original posting will need improvement, and references to remain in tact:
Many objected to this episode's portrayal of Species 8472 as reasonable and misunderstood.[who?] Previous episodes had established Species 8472 as a highly hostile and aggressive race who lived by the credo "The Weak Shall Perish."[citation needed] Other fans saw this as a natural development as humans got to know and understand Species 8472.[citation needed] The episode depicted the fact that while we (the humans and starfleet members) viewed Species 8472 as violent, their race actually viewed the crew of Voyager as the violent privative race. Through communication the two factions were able to come to a better understanding of the others viewpoints and perceptions. showed that fans rated this episode as an 8.7 (great) in their research.
Thanks — Ched (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)