Talk:India national cricket team

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Former good articleIndia national cricket team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
May 3, 2006Good article nomineeListed
May 10, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
March 10, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
April 3, 2007Featured article candidateNot promoted
September 21, 2007Good article reassessmentDelisted
January 5, 2022Good article nomineeNot listed
May 12, 2023Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Delisted good article

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As per Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 February 18#File:Cricket India Crest.svg, the use of File:Cricket India Crest.svg in this article is not an acceptable fair use, according to English Wikipedia policy on non-free images. Please do not re-add. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But Team India use that logo on their jersey, they don't use India's nat flag anywhere, we should add BCCI's logo in this article. The team use the logo also on helmet and its like it's identity mark. People relate the logo with Indian team rather than that with the BCCI.Tesla car owner (talk) 05:00, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's the logo of the BCCI, not the logo of the team, and so fails Wikipedia's non-free content criteria. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IPL team names in 'Current squad section ', why?[edit]

Its a article about India team, its not relevant to write player's IPL team's name in 'current squad section'. @Joseph2302:, I tried to fix this issue but someone without explaining or discussing undid my edit, now it became a mess, due to need fix manually, again. Can you revert his edits and tell him, the issue. @Therlinsideman:, you should revert your edit. IPL teams' mention is not relevant in this article, IPL is just a domestic tournament, then why you want its teams name in 'Current squad section ' of India national team? @Blue Square Thing: can you fix this problem.Tesla car owner (talk) 04:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that we don't need IPL teams listed. Lots of the squad only play Test or ODI cricket, so why on earth would their T20 team be relevant at all? This isn't IPL fandom site, no matter how many people try and make it that way. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hi. Rohit or virat Acchi koshish ki thi aapane Rohit aur Virat Suman but final mein har Gayegill Suman gill char ran per out hue the Rohit Sharma ne to acchi pari kheli Virat ne bhi aur aap logon Ko kya हाल-चाल hai achcha hai na हाल-चाल theek hai na 42.105.204.20 (talk) 05:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 December 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — mw (talk) (contribs) 11:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

India national cricket team → India men's national cricket team – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:RNEUTRAL, and WP:CONSISTENT.

Currently, there is one page called the India national cricket team and another called the India women's national cricket team. Either both teams have to be gendered or none. All the players on the men's team are men, like all players on the women's team are women. Therefore, the current article title lacks precision, neutrality, and consistency.

There is clear precedent for such article naming in the field hockey teams, one for the men's team and another for the women's team.

In light of the need for consistency with sporting team article titles (WP:CONSISTENT), precision (WP:PRECISE), and neutrality (WP:RNEUTRAL), I propose to move India national cricket team to India men's national cricket team. This move should probably be executed for all gendered sports teams, but the broader question might have to be addressed through CAT:WNCP and WP:NCST.

At this time, the page India men's national cricket team redirects to India national cricket team. Instead, India national cricket team should be a disambiguation page with the men's and women's teams listed in it. Such naming would also be consistent with the opening sentence of the men's page, which states: 

The India men's national cricket team, also known as the Men in Blue or most commonly Team India, represent India in men's international cricket.

-Mad Maths (talk) 13:37, 4 December 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 09:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Very clear primary topic and common name. See Category:National cricket teams. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the pointer to the category. As I state above, there is an issue with precision, consistency (with other national sports), and neutrality. It seems like a fraught assumption that a national team implies the men's national team, especially when there is already a women's national team. We could propose a multiple move that would update all the national cricket teams, or alternatively, have only one page for the national cricket team for every nation with the men's and women's team as sections. If there are countries without a women's national cricket team, the section could state that and no more. What do you think?
    -Mad Maths (talk) 14:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    In most sports the men's team is still the primary topic. The same debate has been had over football teams and the proposed move was rejected, and women's football is far more prominent than women's cricket. The fact remains that when most people refer to a national cricket (or football) team without a qualifier they're referring to the men's team. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:46, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Necrothesp
    >The fact remains that when most people refer to a national cricket (or football) team without a qualifier they're referring to the men's team.
    There is no disputing this. However by no means should this influence the title. The title simply cannot and should not be based on what one's own assumption of the default team is. Your argument that the men's team is the default purely based on their general popularity is inadmissible. The title as @MadMaths pointed out should be neutral to such things. YeojaSeung (talk) 19:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you probably need to read WP:COMMONNAME if you think my argument is "inadmissible". -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:16, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*::Agree. Both the Women's and Men's team equally represent the nation and are equally worthy of the title "National Cricket team" or any other sport for that matter. The popularity of the team cannot be a factor in deciding this. That said, this move helps establish neutrality and consistency as pointed out by @MadMaths. RosterTree (talk) 05:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC) Struck duplicate vote.>>> Extorc.talk 09:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The title should not be influenced by the popularity of the team. The fact that the men's team is more talked about does not make it default. YeojaSeung (talk) 19:22, 5 December 2023 (UTC) — YeojaSeung (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Oppose WP:COMMONNAME. When the men play, they are commonly referred to as India, whereas when the women, India Women. This may well change in the future, but for now the pages should remain as they are titled. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:58, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Rugbyfan22.  Hamza Ali Shah  Talk 01:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. The title should be neutral. This proposed change does not affect the clarity of the topic in any way. Instead it reinforces the neutrality. The argument that one commonly refers to the Men's team when they say the National team is not relevant in this respect. TreyMap (talk) 05:20, 6 December 2023 (UTC) — Striking sockpuppets. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Both the Women's and Men's team equally represent the nation and are equally worthy of the title "National Cricket team" or any other sport for that matter. The popularity of the team cannot be a factor in deciding this. That said, this move helps establish neutrality and consistency as pointed out by @MadMaths. RosterTree (talk) 06:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC) — Striking sockpuppets. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Icon[edit]

All other major national cricket teams have their icon as their cricket logo, with India being the only one with a flag. Proposing that we put the logo as well Pharaoh496 (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, the BCCI logo was removed after a WP:FFD (check the file discussion page for that logo). Other national teams shouldn't be using their cricket board's logos either, if they do, then that is what needs fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Every single cricket team and non cricket national sports team has their logo. I spoke with some editors and have found that it is actually a flag violation to use this here. Pharaoh496 (talk) 10:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ma shibok bollar[edit]

Ma 2409:4061:4EBE:643:0:0:1E8A:A601 (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please 2409:4061:4EBE:643:0:0:1E8A:A601 (talk) 05:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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