Talk:Indira Gandhi

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Her wrongdoings[edit]

There needs to be inclusion of the items I have indicated in the main section, including

Her poor relations with foreign dignitaries including the Kennedys and Richard Nixon among others Her sacrilege on Sikhism's Golden Temple (by her own admission, it was a large enough even to warrant that she may not be alive in the coming days) Her committing electoral fraud to stay in power Her illegal modifications to the Constitution of India

If these changes are not added, the neutrality tags stick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.112.191.186 (talk) 15:54, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

A "controversy" or "Criticism" section can be started, but that should be very well sourced. --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

No. It needs to be in the header, and right in the body of the article next to each event. You cannot have all these events lumped together as a slight blip on the radar. It needs to be incorporated into the article to maintain the true nature of each event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.112.191.186 (talk) 16:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Sign your posts and revert your recent edits! You are replacing sourced content with unsourced content! "and right in the body of the article next to each event"- that's not how an essay is written! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, essays are written as glowing reviews to be used for propaganda. Right? And there also needs to be mention of her meddling with Punjab politics to try and split Dal Khalsa by raising Bhindranwale to prominance, then facing the same problem as the US did with raising the Taliban to prominance to fight off the Soviets in Afghanistan. If I wanted to be unbiased I'd write a line calling her a terrorist, but that's too much. Just write what I told you to write, or it will be written for you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.112.191.186 (talk) 16:13, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Write what I told you to write? you wont get anywhere on wikipedia with that attitude. also I've requested you before to keep the discussion civil. anyways if you have read through the whole article, you will see that its not some "glowing" propaganda. I have been adding to the article since last month and I have tried to keep it balanced with critical views included. as for your feedback:

1) Her poor relationship with President Nixon is mentioned in the relevant section. Why do you think it is important to merit inclusion in the lead?

2) This is pov pushing. There are equally controversial opposing views.

3) This is not as controversial as you would like to think. All serious charges against her were dismissed. The supreme court verdict was basically described as "firing the prime minister for a traffic ticket."

4) Illegal? The amendments during the emergency were passed in parliament just like every single other amendments. Cliniic (talk) 10:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


I feel bad for you. No one deserves to be this stupid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.112.191.186 (talk) 05:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree, I have read a lot of articles and autobiographies that included legally questionable acts of her political career. She had people imprisoned, threatened and harassed if they opposed her. There is nothing about any of that in your article. Also, to state that something is legal because a government she was threatening parties with imprisonment if they did not agree with her, made them actually legal, than I think we might be at a very large disagreement. She changed their constitution with her agenda. Multiple credible sites have referenced these things and this article does not. "In March 1972, buoyed by the country’s success against Pakistan, Gandhi again led her new Congress Party to a landslide victory in national parliamentary elections. Shortly afterward her defeated Socialist Party opponent charged that she had violated the election laws. In June 1975 the High Court of Allahabad ruled against her, which meant that she would be deprived of her seat in parliament and would have to stay out of politics for six years. In response, she declared a state of emergency throughout India, imprisoned her political opponents, and assumed emergency powers, passing many laws limiting personal freedoms. During this period she implemented several unpopular policies, including large-scale sterilization as a form of birth control. When long-postponed national parliamentary elections were held in 1977, Gandhi and her party were soundly defeated, whereupon she left office." Useful biographies include Mary C. Carras, Indira Gandhi (1979); Dom Moraes, Indira Gandhi (also published as Mrs. Gandhi (1980); Nayantara Sahgal, Indira Gandhi, Her Road to Power (1982); Inder Malhotra, Indira Gandhi: A Personal and Political Biography (1989, reissued 1991); and Pupul Jayakar, Indira Gandhi: An Intimate Biography (1992). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.246.115.65 (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 May 2013[edit]

In the "early life and career"section it says that her father was "incarnated" in prison, I assume they meant incarcerated.

Early life and career

Indira Nehru was born on 19 November 1917 in Allahabad.[2] Her father, Jawaharlal Nehru, led India's political struggle for independence from British rule, and became the first Prime Minister of the Union (and later Republic) of India.[3] She was an only child (a younger brother was born, but died young),[4] and grew up with her mother, Kamala Nehru, at the Anand Bhavan; a large family estate in Allahabad.[5] Indira had a lonely and unhappy childhood.[6] Her father was often away, directing political activities or being incarnated in prison, while her mother was frequently bed-ridden with illness, and later suffered an early death from tuberculosis.[7] She had limited contact with her father, mostly through letters.[8]

Mgregg85 (talk) 22:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Done - Thanks! --ElHef (Meep?) 23:11, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 August 2013[edit]

She went on to study at the Viswa Bharati University in shantiniketan 103.24.85.135 (talk) 08:23, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 13:45, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Relationship to Mahatma Gandhi[edit]

Why doesn't the article describe the relationship between Indira Gandhi and Mahatma Gandhi? There's a section from 5 years ago in this talk thread asking the same question. As an unfamiliar reader looking for basic information, this is a huge omission. Was there an edit war in the past over this? Surely the editors can hash out something here and add a sentence or two to the "Early life and career" section. If it's so controversial that this is difficult, that only makes it more important that something be added. Oconnor663 (talk) 00:24, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

The reference to the other Gandhi perpetuates the error that Indira was related to him. The caption to the photo "Gandhi fasting in 1924, with the young Indira" is particularly misleading. This article is about Indira Gandhi, not the mystic who happened to share the same surname.Royalcourtier (talk) 06:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I've tweaked the wording. Please see what you think. --NeilN talk to me 12:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Just a note, the subject is addressed in Nehru–Gandhi family, perhaps regular editors might want to think of referencing it in here too. —SpacemanSpiff 16:19, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I added in the photo's description that she was not related to him, to clarify this for readers. 2A02:2F0A:507F:FFFF:0:0:567B:2257 (talk) 15:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I grabbed the bull by its horn, and added an explicit note clarifying the relationship in this edit. The current placement may not be ideal, since this "common mistake" is unlikely to be the first thing of note about Indira Gandhi, but couldn't think of a better one. Pinging @NeilN: any input? Feel free to tweak. Abecedare (talk) 17:27, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

@Abecedare: No issues here. Attentive readers will see there's no familial relationship from the article text but a note can't hurt. --NeilN talk to me 17:15, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Missing legacy item[edit]

The Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital in Male', Maldives to her legacy. In October 1986 the Maldivian government requested India's assistance in building a large scale hospital during Rajiv Gandhi's official visit. It was agreed to by Rajiv Gandhi; two years later, India and Maldives signed a memorandum of understanding in October 1988. The hospital was officially handed over to the Maldivan Government by the Indian Union Minister for Urban Development, Shrimathi Sheila Kaul, on February 2, 1994. It was officially inaugurated on April 15, 1995, by P. V. Narasimha Rao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.151.208.130 (talk) 05:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Image of Gandhi[edit]

The picture that is used for this article is, by all standards, a pretty bad one. Her face is barely discernible and she is not looking at the camera, or at least, her eyes are not visible. This is confounding, as there are tons more much better quality pictures of her than this one, so changing it would be a slight improvement for the article, I think.

Although I would willingly do so myself, certain circumstances prevent me from doing so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.16.43 (talk) 20:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

The Article explains the what but not the why.[edit]

The article states when, where, and who assasinated Indira Gandhi, but does not say why her body guards killed her. Is there an answer to that question? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.67.68.252 (talk) 10:48, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

It is elaborated on in Assassination of Indira Gandhi. Also, the answer to your question is something that is still a bit of a sensitive topic within India and, in my opinion, that is why some editors would have preferred to leave it out. I suggest you read The Emergency (India), Operation Blue Star, Satwant Singh, Beant Singh and Operation Blue Star for a more holistic idea of what happened. Myopia123 (talk) 22:11, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Third or fourth Prime Minister?[edit]

There are some editors here that keep changing her from the third to the fourth Prime Minister. I can see the logic of this but does someone who was caretaker for two short terms before elections count? This is what seems to make the difference. And if you do make the change please use an Edit summary to tell us why and stop it from appearing as one of the "random number changes" that people seem to find so funny. Britmax (talk) 16:17, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

If you include Gulzarilal Nanda who was acting prime minister on two occasions while the next prime minister was being chosen, then she is fourth. If you don't include him, then she is third. List of Prime Ministers of India should also be useful. Myopia123 (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Note, I was not involved in the edit war. Myopia123 (talk) 21:46, 11 November 2014 (UTC)