Talk:Innocent prisoner's dilemma

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a note to helpers[edit]

please do go ahead and knock yourselves out :) I am in no way an ownership kind of person, and cases and discussion about this subject is plentiful. Penyulap 19:30, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

overview of the conference

dynamics[edit]

The article is looking at two countries in particular just at the moment, although there are certainly a lot of others to cover, like the approaches taken in Germany, China and Sharia law to name just a few possibilities.

I have seen some editors get excited over wp:engvar and it's often the case that some British and American editors get over-excited on this topic. So to extinguish the dynamic now, I'll pop a var notice on to illustrate the var of the article. There are enough editors now to make suggestions, and please do feel free to do as you please changing it, or supporting it, or not commenting as you wish. No changes to the article are needed.

Editors might be tempted to go and read up on Liberia before commenting or making changes, but I assure you it's not necessary, and note that if in the future there was an excited discussion about changing away from Liberian, the participants would be obliged to do some study they might not have otherwise wanted to do in order to be impolite to each other. I know perfectly well what I have been adding to the article in phrases and style, but don't see the need to draw attention to the numerous examples of the variant in the article, as the problem has already been solved by the act of opening discussion on the issue at this point. It is actually solved now whether there is any further comment on the topic or not. Any suggestions for change that are made, I will agree with in order to assist in establishing a consensus which can be pointed to in the future. Penyulap 04:53, 6 Jun 2012 (UTC)

Guantanamo captives[edit]

Guantanamo captives are in an even worse situation than the wrongfully convicted individuals described in this article.

Under the Guantanamo system the USA reserves the right to continue to hold captives indefinitely -- potentially for the rest of their lives, even if they are tried and found innocent. However, those who plead guilty receive a definite release date. David Hicks and Salem Ahmed Hamdan, the first two suspects to be convicted, both agreed to plea deals. Both served approximately less than one further year. Hicks wrote a book upon his release, and the Australian government initiated steps to make sure he didn't profit from sales of the book. It recently dropped its efforts to block his profiting after acknowledging his confession was coerced, and would not stand up in an Australian court.

I am wondering whether adding Hick's case to this article would make sense. Geo Swan (talk) 11:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Factual innocence[edit]

In the United States the reality of a person being innocent, called "factual innocence" is not sufficient reason for the justice system to release a prisoner

I'm not sure this is the best source, and it is not very well represented. The source is talking about death penalty law and an opinion about "actual innocence", not "factual innocence". This has more to do with why states prohibit the death penalty. Viriditas (talk) 11:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Possible connection[edit]

The topic seems to be related to the concept of The Alford Plea. Maybe it should be included as a "see also" link? 174.71.18.248 (talk) 07:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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