Talk:International military intervention against the Islamic State

Civilian casualties and non combat military

It's just wrong to list them in the losses on the coalition side. Civilians should be listed below, while non combat losses should just not be counted or listed below as they are not direct effects of the military confrontation. Also, IS does not operate any MiG aircraft. Controlling an air-frame is very different from using it. 600 tanks look really far fetched.

This page is too big after including templates, it is breaking Wikipedia

The templates and modules at the bottom of the page are not being expanded because the page is hitting the 2MB limit of an "expanded page". See Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded for details.

This page has about 900KB of content if you do not count Template:International military intervention against ISIL infobox. This special-purpose infobox template is only used by this article. The template itself is over 1,300,000 bytes, pushing the total over the limit.

Suggestions:

• Split the article
• Take some flags and other things out of the template so the combined size is under 2GB.
• Find redundant references and remove them.

If the template is reduced, any references that are removed may need to be copied back to the main article or they will show up as "missing" references in the reference list. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:22, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate your note. I see a few possible options. I guess we could split it up by year? or else by region? any other options out there? --Sm8900 (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

The box here is a bloated monstrosity, and whoever put it together fundamentally misunderstands the purpose of the box. It isn't to cram every minute detail you can find a field for, it's meant to give readers a brief understanding of the topic.

You could reduce the size of the infobox considerably by cutting most of the extraneous individuals listed; we don't need 20 commanders for ISIL, including the "Senior ISIL economic manager". Personally, I'd prefer the World War II solution and cut all but a few of the leaders and link to subpages (if we even think those are necessary here). Then, take a chainsaw to the strength section. We don't need an itemized list of every piece of military hardware. Cut the minor force strength sections altogether - Qatar contributed a pair of Mirage 2000s? Good for them, it doesn't need to be in the box. Also, cut the redundant sourcing - we don't need 4 footnotes for Russia's casualty figures. Parsecboy (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I've trimmed about 40kb from the box, but it's still far too bloated. At this point, we probably need to create standalone lists like List of countries involved in the military intervention against ISIL, Leaders of the military intervention against ISIL, Casualties of the military intervention against ISIL, etc. to follow the Allies of World War II, Allied leaders of World War II, World War II casualties etc. series of articles. Parsecboy (talk) 13:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Your trimming fixed the issue with breaking the wiki, but as you said, it's still bloated. At this point decisions can be made editorially instead of being "under the gun" (pardon the pun) to fix a technical issue. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: - it looks like you undid the cuts I made inadvertently - can you take a look? Parsecboy (talk) 21:24, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Change Algerian president in infobox

As I can't access the infobox, can Algeria's president in the infox be changed to the current president of Algeria? Bouteflicka has already stepped down. Chipperdude15 (talk) 18:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Ashraf Ghani

Why is Ashraf Ghani shown with the Islamic Emirate flag in the list of leaders? Just because Afghanistan changed hands does not mean he changed allegiance. 72.36.119.42 (talk) 05:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)