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leading text needs rewriting[edit]

I would suggest to scratch

   Bruce Sterling (are personal references necessary?)
   Josef Preishuber-Pflügl (are personal references necessary?)
   Pachube (already referred to under applications)

from the "see also" section. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by IoTCruiser (talkcontribs) 3 mei 2011 10:33‎ (UTC)

Applications Section[edit]

The majority of this section's content here seems to be just links to commercial applications, which resembles advertising. A simplistic comparison would be to list Ford, Toyota, Mercedes etc... on the Cars page. Granted, the Internet of Things concept is much newer, but does anybody object to removing the content that is linked to commercial applications? The wouldn't apply to the UBC paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeminiDrive (talkcontribs) 5 jun 2013 02:17‎ (UTC)

leading text needs rewriting[edit]

It's gibberish. Perhaps the Internet of Things itself is gibberish. I wish one could tell from reading the lead of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 7 nov 2014 18:03‎ (UTC)

This is hopeless marketing gibberish[edit]

It starts with the first lead sentence: The Internet of Things (IoT) is the interconnection of uniquely identifiable embedded computing devices within the existing Internet infrastructure. This means nothing. Embedded computers have been used on the Internet for decades now, and everyone has always been uniquely identified, they were not floating around the Internet anonymously. In the infrastructure requires a bit of definition what that means. The infrastructure already has embedded devices, intelligent router cards, sensors, and what not... Kbrose (talk) 17:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Agreed, it sounds like marketing or philosophical bantering. (talk) 19:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

A unique MAC address does not make things "identifiable" unless there is also some way to find it. For a long time my house thermostats (or similar devices) have had IP networking and the ability to communicate with the boiler, or solar panels, using this IP connection. This is a simple enough way of connecting things, especially as it can use an existing cabling system and so avoid running I2C or CANbus around in addition. It's not an "internet" though - there's no distributed naming, there's no scope to make connections beyond those that have been specifically configured as point-to-point logical links.
With a broader IoT approach, we see naming and service discovery too. So now my thermostat can ask what today's energy prices are and the weather forecast, then decide how much heating it's going to need, whether the solar system is likely to produce much, and whether to buy the rest from either gas or electric heating. I cna then see this happening on my smartphone, because these identifiable services are now routable through the larger 'net. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


How to link to: Lpwan and Lorawan, these two technologies/topics/protocols are now developing, one of the early adopters is Swisscom, see: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huggi (talkcontribs) 07:39, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Confusion to be cleared around the scope of the term "Internet of Things"[edit]

In this article, the term "Internet of Things" has been likened to the term "Internet of Everything" (which to my mind, has a broader scope). Is it correctly done so? I'm not sure, but if it is correct, then please consider setting the term "Internet of Everything" to redirect to this article. -Devan Furia (talk) 18:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

leading text needs rewriting[edit]

Who says that IoT is based "on the infrastructure of International Telecommunication Union's Global Standards Initiative.[1]"? ITU does telephone lines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1398:200:200:6E88:14FF:FE04:52E4 (talk) 08:05, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

The Internet of Things In Literature (both in fiction and non-fiction)[edit]

This talk page debate might well be served by adding a section to the article itself titled "The Internet of Things in literature." For instance Stephen Baker published The Numerati in 2008 the same year as some of the comments on gibberish in this talk page. The Internet of Things has taken on life in popular culture not reflected in this article. The article might stand an additional level of indirection. condor (talk) 16:07, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Devices for the year 2020[edit]

There's contradictory information about the amount of connected devices for the year 2020. Don Equis (talk) 07:37, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

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Section "Enabling technologies for the IOT" needs overhaul[edit]

The section below, as it stands at 25 November 2015, needs a rewrite. It current reads as if it is from the viewpoint of someone who spends all day looking at a smart phone. We defintiely needs this section - but it needs to cover the basic compute platform improvments (eg SoC, microcontroller), battery tech (eg LiPo, PV cell), comms protocols (IPv6, MQTT), carriage (like WiFi/4G/LPWAN,BLE), and so on.

martyvis (talk) 23:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Enabling technologies for the IOT
There are mainly three types of technologies that enable IOT.
  • RFID and near-field communication - In the 2000s, RFID was the dominant technology. Later, NFC became dominant (NFC). The latest iPhone 6 supports NFC for Apple Pay.
  • Optical tags and quick response codes - This is used for low cost tagging. Phone cameras decodes QR code using image-processing techniques. In reality QR advertisement campaigns gives less turnout as users need to have another application to read QR codes.
  • Bluetooth low energy - This is one of the latest tech. All newly releasing smartphones have BLE hardware in them. Tags based on BLE can signal their presence at a power budget that enables them to operate for up to one year on a lithium coin cell battery.
  • @Martyvis: I agree completely with your assessment, although it is my opinion we could scrap the section completely for now. It would be futile to try and list or even generally cover a sample of IoT-enabling technologies currently in use, or planned. Having a severely deficient section is worse than none at all, as it misrepresents the topic to a wide audience. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 02:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, the whole article stands as a mish-mash of different random observations about IoT, without any coherence or overall structure. The article without a doubt needs a major copy edit. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:53, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  • I chipped in an extra line on low power radio but it should be further improved with references and BTle etc need adding. I think it is useful to have key enablers - and I guess even the Cloud is missing here - but this could help technical readers? Bravekermit (talk) 09:09, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Why Is This Page Written Like Philosophy?[edit]

Why doesn't it get into the technical aspects,protocols, software, and hardware? It is written like some sort of philosophy or marketing jargon. (talk) 19:23, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't assess the whole article in such light, but indeed it could use a major copy edit, which I've proposed in several instances above. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)