Talk:Internet protocol suite

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Scheme vs. protocol[edit]

HTTPS (actually https:) is a URI scheme, not a protocol. The scheme describes a different protocol stack that includes SSL or TLS, but the protocol is no different. For that reason, might it be better to keep the distinction clear? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) 05:15, 29 August 2005.

See Talk:HTTPS Hrvoje Šimić 06:55:44, 2005-09-13 (UTC)

Layers in the Internet Protocol stack[edit]

The above captioned section groups a lot of TCP/IP and non TCP/IP protocols in the OSI model. There should be something to identify the TCP/IP protocols from these, especially when the article does not provide a list of TCP/IP protocols anywhere else. RMehra 25 January 2006

Please Remember The 1960s![edit]

A student of mine approached me with the view that ARPANET was created in the 1970s. The view was taken from Wiki:

"Today's IP networking represents a synthesis of two developments that began in the 1970s, namely LANs (Local Area Networks) and the Internet, both of which have revolutionized computing."

I have inserted "1960s and 1970s" as 1970s alone, when referring to the beginnings of the development of the internet, is misleading.

First, don't forget to sign your posts. Gah4 (talk) 14:10, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
It seems backward to say that IP networking is derived from the Internet. I think it should be the other way around.
Now, LANs originated as local workgroup networking systems. ARPAnet originated with point-to-point leased lines between mainframe systems, when there weren't yet local groups of computers needing networking.
I believe, though, that the idea of an internetwork (small i), that is, a network of networks, didn't come until the 1970's. There just weren't enough computers at the time. UUCP was often used for transport over phone lines between machines that were far apart. In the 1980's, there were many local networks not connected to other networks, or connected through UUCP, or similar links. There were local networking systems, such as ARCnet, not (yet) designed for internetworking. As I knew it, Sun popularized the ethernet connected workgroup with file servers and print servers, connecting to diskless hosts. But fairly late into the 1980's, much of the Internet as it existed went through 56K bit/s leased lines. You could send mail, and transfer small files, but not a lot more. Gah4 (talk) 14:10, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


Seems to me that minimal implementations wouldn't include IGMP, and maybe not even TCP. The usual boot ROMs, such as to boot diskless Unix machines, only need UDP as a layer four protocol. Gah4 (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2016 (UTC)