Talk:Interstate Bridge

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Name[edit]

Honestly, it doesn't matter if someone has never heard it used. Try searching first before implementing your world view on an article. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Update[edit]

I removed the update tag from the replacement section and added a current event tag.

I also added some links to the current controversy over the bridge, and elaborated a bit about them. What i've added doesn't fully cover all of what's going on right now, so please feel free to add more to it. Jf00830 (talk) 19:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Demolition?[edit]

Following the Columbia River Crossing project in the press, I've always assumed that the current Interstate Bridge(s) would be demolished - but I've never seen anything one way or the other on that issue. I'd like to see mention of that in this article, but don't know where to go to get sourced information that's not OR. Or is it that this question hasn't even been considered in the project planning yet? Ipoellet (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

The best way to find out is to contact the project management. They should be able to answer whatever questions and/or point you to useful sources. I don't think that's OR. - Denimadept (talk) 17:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

CRC source[edit]

Here's an interesting interview about the CRC project. -Pete (talk) 08:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Where? Aboutmovies (talk) 08:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4184/is_20080125/ai_n21216938 -Pete (talk) 17:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
This is a dead link as of 2 December 2012. Sehome Bay (Leave a message) 20:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Pedestrian Traffic[edit]

Since this bridge carries Interstate-5, I assume that there is no pedestrian or bicycle traffic allowed on the bridge, but I'm only just assuming. Can anyone confirm that and make it a part of the article? -ErinHowarth (talk) 07:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect. There are sidewalks outboard of the girders, one each direction. —EncMstr (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Replacement section: biased source[edit]

The paragraph "In 2008, as fuel prices increased...." cites a biased source. The cited article is an opinion piece titled Bridge to Disaster and subtitled "A Proposed New 12-Lane Bridge over the Columbia River Will Cost $4.2 Billion, Increase Traffic, and Do Little to Alleviate Climate Change. What the Hell Are We Thinking?". This opinion piece clearly shows a bias against the options under consideration by the lead government agencies. It is also factually misleading when it states:

"In addition, many on the Portland side of the river fear that a 12-lane highway bridge to Vancouver, which has virtually no land use restrictions, will encourage suburban sprawl and development north of the river." (emphasis added)

The opinion piece's author ignores state laws and local ordinances that restrict land use on the north side of the Columbia River. Washington State has two important laws, the Growth Management Act and the State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA), which govern land use. Clark County and the City of Vancouver implement those laws with very detailed local ordinances. These ordinances impose significant land use restrictions. For these ordinances, see:


How should the Wikipedia article be revised to remove this factual inaccuracy?
How should a significant arguement against the proposed Columbia River Crossing be presented in this section?

Sehome Bay (Leave a message) 20:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I actually don't think there is really too much of an issue. First, all sources are biased. Here, I believe that there are in fact many people who feel exactly as the author of that opinion piece, which is that a large bridge will allow sprawl in Vancouver/Clark County and that Vancouver/Clark County has less land use restrictions than on the Oregon side. I edited the sentence to reflect that (though honestly I did not read the opinion piece/source). I would hypothesize this was more of the intent of the editor adding it to the Wiki-article, that being there is some resistance on this side of the river due to idea that Vancouver/Clark County/WA has less land use restrictions that will cause further sprawl. I have not studied the land use restrictions up north enough to make an informed opinion as to whether or not there is much truth to the common perception about a lack of anti-sprawl laws in Vancouver/Clark County, but it is something often repeated in the media, with the sprawl created by I-205 often mentioned as an example (I guess they tend to overlook the same thing on the Oregon-side with places like Happy Valley, but I cannot control other's opinions and false logic). But I think most can agree that the opinion as such is held by many on the Portland side. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I personally am for a larger than the existing one coupled with a West-Side Bypass that adds third bridge to the west, but I think I am in the minority on that.

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Fascinating Sirens[edit]

There is set of at least 7 or 8 Air Sirens rigged in the area of this bridge for the purposes of warning Interstate Traffic of an impending bridge lift. Would anyone mind if I did a brief write-up with pics for this fascinating rare warning system for a modern bridge? I might hold off until I can get Audio of the sirens sounding, but that could be a far off dream... It's really neat to hear them wail :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanSafyre (talkcontribs) 20:48, 20 July 2016 (UTC)