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Requested move 1 August 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Number 57 15:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


Irvine (train station)Irvine Transportation Center – Article was moved to the latter title (by me) in August November 2014 as the WP:COMMONNAME; article was then inexplicably moved back to the current title by Torritorri a week ago. Problem with the current title is that it is completely wrong under the guideline WP:USSTATION. I'll argue that Irvine Transportation Center is a better title as both the WP:COMMONNAME (e.g. see this from Amtrak and this from OCTA which both explicitly use "Irvine Transportation Center"), and under WP:NATURALDIS. Failing that, the article should be moved to Irvine Station as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Bottom line: The article cannot stay at the current title under the WP:USSTATION guideline. --IJBall (contribstalk) 17:44, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Yes! There was nothing wrong with that "proper name" as the article title. This form of parenthetical disambiguation is out of sync with every other USA train station article. Irvine Station may be the primary use but that disambiguation page adequately directs here. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Support. The title "Irvine (train station)" is still ambiguous enough that it should instead redirect to the Irvine Station disambiguation page. I would further suggest that, unless there is a primary topic for "Irvine Station", the Irvine railway station page should also be renamed to something like Irvine railway station (Scotland).Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:11, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
    • I suggest that if you wish to rename other articles you discuss it at their talk page. Nobody who has an interest in that article will see these comments. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:47, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Support as proposed Red Slash 22:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Support USSTATION is ridiculous, but given the existence of the Scotland station articles liked to from Irvine Station, it appears the best title to naturally disambiguate this page would be Irvine Transportation Center. Side note to anyone else who was confused looking through the article history, I believe the nominator meant November, not August. --torri2(talk/contribs) 09:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • Note about the "alternate" title suggestion: If Irvine Station is deemed the "more correct" title (though I still think that Irvine Transportation Center is the proper COMMONNAME...), but this one isn't deemed the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, then the correct title in that case (under WP:USSTATION) would almost certainly be Irvine Station (California). --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:43, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
    • - and this is where we get into problems, by suggesting multiple alternates rather than your first choice. This allows the discussion to wander off course and go on and on and on . . . . Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:50, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
      • Well, I'm clear on what I think the title should be. And I've included sourcing to show it. --IJBall (contribstalk) 16:55, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.