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Completely filled with propaganda and islamophobic statements. "in contrast with Christianity..." WHAT THE FUCK? Seriously I'm keeping this deleted until someone (who isn't a racist little fuck) writes a better article on it. Hell, why don't I start to make it my own fucking mission to add to Criticism of Christianity huh? Seriously..I thought Wikipedia was better than this.--Velanthis (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

CAN YOU RETARDS STOP PUTTING THESE RACIST FUCKING COMMENTS NO HERE. YOUR GETTING YOUR RESOARCES FROM COMPLETELY ISLAMOPHIBIC WEBSITE AND NOBODY IS STOPPING THAT RACIST BIGOT.--Velanthis (talk) 18:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Anyone who actually tries to put something racist against Muslims peoples....well I'm gonna keep my ass on this page so if you want to stop me write a better article.--Velanthis (talk) 18:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Velanthis, last time I checked Islam was not a race, but a religion. You cannot use the word 'racist' in this context.

Is it not true that individual Muslims and Islamic governments are responsible to recognize free speech as a human right? Islam itself cannot recognize anything any more than Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or Shiia, as it cannot think (it is, in itself, a concept). Shouldn't the article support itself on historic and contemporary views and punishments (or lack thereof) for blasphemy in and out of Islamic countries, possibly with references to sacred and secular texts? That's what a wikipedia article is supposed to look like. Until it does so, you're just trading Islamophobic bias for Islamophilic bias.--catcherintehsty (talk) 08:00, 19 January, 2008 (EST)

The second line of the article says, "The Quran and the hadith do not speak about any worldy punishment for blasphemy." Then in the "Blasphemy against God" section it says, "The Qur'an speaks of punishment in relation to those who make mischief in opposition to God and Muhammad" — Preceding unsigned comment added by SabrebIade (talkcontribs) 01:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Badmouth?[edit]

That translation probably calls for a fact/translation check. 74.78.162.229 (talk) 01:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Removed that ¶ completely (see edit log). Would fact check the Egyptian blasphemy report but presume one of the external links supports. 74.78.162.229 (talk) 12:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletions and tags[edit]

The entire Article has verses of the Holy quran without their interpretation from any renowned author or muslim jurist. As this is Original research from the creator of the article I am deleting the verses which are without interpretation. Please do not post original research on wikipedia.FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:47, 24 December 2014 (UTC) I have reverted changes to this article per the essay WP:BRD. 94.171.219.68 has removed both references and referenced content without explanation. Some of the references are open to challenge on the ground that some of them come from non-Muslim sources (some are Christian sources). If there were Muslim sources in English which disputed the information presented here, those references would be open to challenge on the ground that they are likely to be sympathetic to Islam. I submit that the inherent, disputatious nature of the subject-matter requires that both Muslim and non-Muslim sources be used. I suggest that references which confute the content of this article be added to the article rather than that content be removed. An editor who removes referenced content without explanation gives the impression that he is removing the information because he wants to suppress it. WP:NOT and WP:IDONTLIKEIT indicate that suppressing information is contrary to Wikipedia's policies.

99.247.60.143 deleted a link which connects to a document that is about the suppression of free speech. Since blasphemy is about restricting speech, the link is relevant; it should not have been deleted. User: 99.247.60.143 inserted a tag which called for a citation after the article's first sentence. The first sentence is a tautology; that is, what it says is self-evident; blasphemy is irreverent behavior, and the followers of Islam are Muslims. Per WP:FACTS, it is not necessary to cite a source in support of the obvious.

If the article is not factual in some respect, please provide references in English so that editors may verify whether a statement should be corrected or clarified. Editors may say that some of the behaviors listed in this article do not amount to blasphemy. The ambiguous nature of blasphemy obliged me to include all behavior which is forbidden somewhere and that is forbidden for religious reasons rather than to prevent injury or loss.

I have not replaced the tags which come, it seems, from the WP:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. One tag complains that a "worldwide view" is not represented in the article. There is no explanation of what that view is or why it should be represented here. The documentation for the template says inter alia "editors may remove this tag with alacrity and justified prejudice" if the tagger does not describe what he wants. The other tag asks for "cleanup" but the tagger gives no explanation of what he wants, and he does not explain why he cannot do whatever he wants done. I hope the tagger will be pleased to have in the article again some of the references and content that User: 94.171.219.68 deleted. PYRRHON  talk   17:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Serious issues with this entry, complete rewrite needed[edit]

Some of the things listed as "blasphemy" here are based on isolated incidents referenced in news articles. This only means the people in question considered it "blasphemy", not that it is blasphemy according to mainstream scholars from any of the mains schools of fiqh.

Examples: 1. Naming a teddy bear "Muhammed". Yes, in one particularly famous incident in Sudan a woman was charged with blasphemy for this, but does this really mean that it's generally considered blasphemy by most lay Muslims or Muslim scholars? I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the Quran or hadith specifically referring to the naming of teddy bears. Even if naming toys or other inanimate objects Muhammed is generally considered blasphemy, then that's what it should say, not specifically "teddy bears", which is downright silly as I doubt it's an issue that comes up frequently. 2. Desecration of Quran by a Christian touching it. While this is extensively footnoted, two of the four references come from the same source-- a right-wing Christian website, not the most unbiased source one could find, one was an Op-Ed-- and all four footnotes refer to the very same incident in Nigeria. Which only demonstrates that some of the Nigerian Muslims in that particular place at that particular time considered it blasphemous, and I'd hardly consider one incident of an unruly mob beating someone to death over circumstances that remain somewhat unclear to be scholarly evidence of this claim. Sounds more like a bunch of radical Muslim thugs looking for an excuse to beat up a Christian than any sort of proof that such activity is commonly considered to be blasphemy in Islam.

I know some currently atheist ex-Muslims who are critical of Islam, but fair and knowledgeable on the topic. I'll ask them to take a look at it and maybe provide an NPOV and well-sourced/well-informed re-write instead of a pro or anti-Islam propaganda piece with dubious information and sources.--SmashTheGlass (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

P.S.-- (1) I already edited the first sentence using the language from the general blasphemy article. Originally blasphemy in Islam was defined as irreverent behavior that "offends a Muslim". What the fuck is that supposed to mean? That if ANY Muslim ANYWHERE on the planet is offended by their personal interpretation of "irreverent behavior" that makes it "blasphemy in Islam"? Ridiculous. (2) Why is there only an article about blasphemy in Islam and not in Christianity (which may not be so big a deal now, but if you look at the first 1500 years or so of Christianity, it is kinda a big deal)? (3) Again, I really think this needs a total rewrite that incorporates some of the topics found elsewhere on Wikipedia regarding Islamic jurisprudence-- making subsections on what is considered blasphemy by the different schools of fiqh would be particularly helpful.--SmashTheGlass (talk) 16:18, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Faults with the article[edit]

There are many subtle and direct misrepresentations of blasphemy in Islam. An overwhelming majority of references have not been taken from viable religious sources or texts and thus most of the information on this page is fallacious in nature. Some quotes from the Koran and Hadith are either intentionally misconstrued, or the editor has failed to understand the historical facts surrounding the relevant verses. It is thus requested that the article be edited and completely rewritten.

Statements made such as 'Naming a teddy bear Muhammad' are completely illogical and there is no substantial theological proof to ascertain whether, for example, 'speculating what Muhammad may do', or 'making a film about the prophet's life' are blasphemous in nature.

Thus it is requested that the page be re-edited, and it is suggested that sources are solely from the Koran and from verifiable Hadith; to ensure the integrity of this article.

Please ensure that any sources you use are not sensationalised news articles or otherwise misconstrued in nature. I have removed some of the fallacious points, nevertheless, it is requested that an individual with an UNBIASED view of Islam rewrites the article to better reflect the position of Islam on blasphemy

Kind Regards.

Deletions[edit]

I have made several deletions in this article regarding points that have not used appropriate citations from religious texts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhoenixSF90 (talkcontribs) 19:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

On vandalism[edit]

Please do not vandalize this article.

This article complies with Wikipedia's policies regarding a neutral point of view WP:NPOV, no original research WP:NOR, and verifiability WP:V. The article reports on information and incidents collected from a wide variety of sources from all over the world, and presents those sources in great number. The article does not preach. It is not anti-Islam or pro-Islam. It does not elevate any group of believers above any other. The article does not make judgments about whether an event alleged to be blasphemous would be considered blasphemous by any particular group or by any particular proportion of all Muslims. The article does not take sides in theological or sectarian disputes. The article takes no stand on who is right and who is wrong. It takes no stand on what should or should not be blasphemous. The article tries to be nothing more than a collection of reports and quotations.

If you do not like the references provided, do not delete them. Add better references or add references which challenge the assertion which a report makes. Do not expect the editors at Wikipedia to investigate the reference or to know the motives of the persons involved as participants in an event or as reporters of an event. Do not add your opinions to the article. Face-sad.svg

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RE: On vandalism[edit]

Dear Pyrrhon8,

Thank you for your reply. In order to avoid any misunderstandings, I have added that this article contains instances of events which were considered blasphemous by various sections of Muslim society. I do feel though that in order to better serve an article essentially on religion, there should be a seperate section stipulating the general consensus among Muslims on what counts as blasphemy. This is of course, my personal opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhoenixSF90 (talkcontribs) 14:27, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Good source[edit]

This looks like something that should be incorporated, once I've got some time: [1]. AzureFury (talk | contribs) 21:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

AzureFury, I agree that the source cited by you has content that would enhance this article, but you lack the expertise to make the article better. Face-sad.svg I will undertake to incorporate that source and perhaps others into the article. Editors, if you know of other sources that comment on the interplay of sacrilege, blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy in Islam, please provide a citation. While I was investigating the source mentioned by AzureFury, I noticed that Abdulla Saeed and Hassan Saeed need some improvement. I will leave that improvement to someone else. PYRRHON  talk   04:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I have incorporated into the article the source identified by AzureFury. PYRRHON  talk   20:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Please Delete[edit]

Crucifixion is not an Islamic punishment please delete from the first line —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.54.25.201 (talk) 20:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Since when did crucifixion became part of Islam? And this line: "stating facts such as: Muhammad's parents were not Muslims (Pakistan)." is COMPLETELY FALSE , I am a Pakistani Muslim and everyone here knows and discusses openly EVEN WITH religious scholars that the parents of Prophet Muhammad pbuh weren't technically Muslims —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.8.137 (talk) 00:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Freeatlastchitchat deleting content[edit]

Dear Freeatlastchitchat, Thank you for your edits and for undoing my revert. I assume good faith. You have deleted two section which have been sourced by both primary and secondary. Since your objection was quoting primary sources without outside interpretation, it makes no sense why you object then. The secondary sources for both sections are:

Saeed, Abdullah; Hassan Saeed (2004). Freedom of Religion, Apostasy and Islam. Burlington VT: Ashgate Publishing Company.

I will revert your changes due to the reasons I have outlined above. Please feel free to discuss this issue further so that others can help improve the article. Thank you. Mbcap (talk) 16:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Can I also add that you said not to put quranic verses without explanation from a renowned scholar. I did not know this was a criteria to include material into the article. My impression is that it needs to be from a secondary source. The sections are referenced via a secondary source and since I did not write this article, I thought the quranic quotation and hadith was referenced and interpreted in the Abdullah Saeed text. I have not read the book but if you have and can not find this to be the case please feel free to remove the quran and hadith quotation but the other text in the two sections have to stay since they are sourced. Also your additions to the article under subheading 'blasphemy against God' before I reverted it was:
There is no mention in the entire Holy Quran about blasphemy. However there is distinct mention that the muslims should not verbally abuse the idols of polytheists.
This is unsourced and could I ask you to not put it in for the 3rd time. However, any edits that are sourced would be welcome. Mbcap (talk) 16:26, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear, and respected Mbcap. First of all, Thanks for assuming good faith. On to the article then.

  • I have multiple Issues with this article. The first is that "Blasphemy" should be translated as "impious utterance or action concerning God or sacred things.". Because this is the first meaning. I would like to inquire why the fourth meaning, which is outdated and only rarely ever used, has been used here. Without reason this is bizarre.
  • Secondly, the deletion.
I deleted the Quranic verses which were used out of context. If you look closely at the section you will see that
"Saeed, Abdullah; Hassan Saeed (2004). Freedom of Religion, Apostasy and Islam. Burlington VT: Ashgate Publishing Company."
Is not used as a source when the Quranic verse has been quoted.The reference ends before the Quranic verse. Hence the logical interpretation that his book does not contain the verse. The second reason to assume that his book does not contain any mention of Blasphemy is the very name of his book and his biography. The author has always been against punishment of apostasy and he is known to be a jurist who claims that punishments for apostasy and blasphemy are not present in Islam. So why on earth will he condone an act which he has opposed his whole life. Therefore the book has been used out on context here.
  • The Third Issue I have is with the Hadith and the Verse using the Arabic words which signify "PHYSICAL ASSAULT" instead of verbal blasphemy. This should be clear indicator of the fact that the punishment/retaliation is for physical actions. Like an eye for an eye. So using them here is out of context.
  • The Fourth Issue is that the Hadith is not used by any scholar. The source is good, but that only mentions the incident. The incident is of Ka'ab assaulting the muslims and the Prophet, which led to his killing. There is no mention of any blasphemy. Therefore this counts are original research.
  • The Fifth issue is that; when the article itself states that there is no worldly punishment for blasphemy mentioned in Quran and Hadith then there should be no mention of any verse or hadith prescribing punishment. This issue is a minor one. when compared to others.
  • Therefore I am undoing the revert for the following reasons
1)The secondary source does not mention the Quranic verse
2)The secondary source for hadith, only mentions the incident. so using the incident here is original research.
3)The translation of blasphemy used should be the first one not the fourth one.
4)The words used in the Quranic verse and Hadith are for physical assault, so they should not be considered blasphemy.

P.S As I have provided a plethora of solid reasons I will edit the title of this section as well. I hope you don't mind. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 05:48, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Proposed Replacement[edit]

The hadith which is mentioned here of the woman throwing garbage is considered weak.However there are genuine and sourced traditions which say that the wife of Abu Lahab threw rotting intestines on the Holy Prophet SAW while he was praying. Also there are traditions that say she used to throw rotting garbage at his doorstep. I propose that we replace this tradition with more reliable tradition. Please give your opinion on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FreeatlastChitchat (talkcontribs) 08:20, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Going forward with further improvements[edit]

Hello FreeatlastChitchat, good work on the improvements. I agree the entire article needs to be re-written. There is no concept of blasphemy in Islam as such but there are a number of specific situations where Islam has spoken about objectionable behaviour towards the religion itself. For example this quote from Ma'aida which used to be in the article which refers to the muharib:

“The recompense of those who wage war against Allaah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter."

This is talked about by many classical islamic sources. This is not blasphemy but a specific crime within Islam referring to the al-muharib (bandits).

Also in the article there is mention of insulting Mohammad counting as blasphemy. There is no such thing as blasphemy. The classical texts say regarding it is that it constitutes apostasy so I do not know why it is here. There may even be other scholars who disagree with that opinion. Either way it is not defined as blasphemy in Islam. Do we take the definition of blasphemy in islam from orientalists or from islamic theological sources? The latter has not defined or even mentioned the term in my experience.

This is just one statement I have issue with. To be honest, most of the rest of the article are also questionable as to their merit. Can I ask, in wikipedia do we present information in the normative sense because this article is full of stories from around the world that have been attributed to blasphemy. Is their any islamic scholar that acknowledges blasphemy or define it? It would be good to get an expert on the subject to provide input. Mbcap (talk) 18:30, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
In my opinion, we should request a merge with blasphemy laws. The reason is that blasphemy is defined in a unique way by different Islamic countries, and there is no umbrella definition accepted by all. Therefore we cannot create a "one size fits all" article like other Islamic practices.
If you do not agree then I will work on the edit over new years eve. Let me just clear up something viz a viz the difference between "warring" and "verbal blasphemy".
The Muharib are not verbal blasphemers. They are "warriors" who fight against muslims. The literal meaning is of a warrior. The root of the word is "Ha" , "Ra" , "Ba", which means war. As you are native to English let me quote latin. The word "HaRaBa" equates to the Latin bellum which gains new meanings with new additions, but the basic meaning remains of "Physical" confrontation unless a metaphorical is implied.
Of course anyone can claim that a person who is waging physical war must also be "guilty" of verbal blasphemy but this will be classic over generalization. We must keep this article free of such fallacies.
As to mention of orientalists, I am personally not comfortable with that. The reason is that we should always source definition of religious terms in general and controversial religious terms in particular, from canon. Sourcing the definition of blasphemy to non Islamic authors or anyone who lived after the "golden age" i.e the three centuries after the Prophet SAW will not be good.
Thank you for the input and please give your opinion on the merger for to me it sounds the best way to give information to readers without causing disambiguation. We can talk about it in a separate section if you require some definite reasons for the merger.FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello FreeatlastChitchat, I am not that knowledgeable in this area so I am a bit hesitant about giving input to the merger discussion. I shall try to give my opinion in the second paragraph. Regarding the word Haraba and its noun Muharib. I only highlighted this to illustrate how misplaced some of the information on the main article is/was. I did not mean to say that someone waging war is guilty of blasphemy but I was saying the opposite. I meant to say that this passage from the Quran is misplaced as it has no relation to blasphemy. I will explain. I am indeed a native english speaker but I study classical Arabic. The definitions of these words if taken literally can be totally different to the actual canonical definition. For example hajj means journey (literally) but the actual definition refers to something else entirely. I agree that Haraba means war in its literal sense but its actual meaning (classical Arabic definition) is ambushing people and exhibiting bandit behavior, aggression, stealing & looting peoples property and terrorizing people etc. Whereas the noun Muharib means a bandit/aggressor. This is like salama which means to accept or submit but if you add meem (m) to the root (salama) it becomes the nourn form (Muslim) meaning the one who submits. But we know Muslim refers to something else, a people that adhere to Islam. Sorry I am getting carried away. So in summary the meaning is from the canon from the golden era and I was highlighting how it is not related to blasphemy but something else entirely.
Moving on to improving the article. I think it needs cleaning up in regards to what constitutes blasphemy in Islam if such a thing exists. If it does exists and there are good sources from Islamic canon then it may be notable enough to warrant its own article which right now exists anyway. Otherwise I agree with you, it may be wise to merge. Mbcap (talk) 16:21, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh I see why you thought I was equating war with blasphemy, I said in the first line in this section:
"There is no concept of blasphemy in Islam as such but there are a number of specific situations where Islam has spoken about objectionable behaviour towards the religion itself."
Sorry my friend, did not mean to say that. I was going to write about insulting God, Mohammad or the Quran and the consequences. They are not labelled as blasphemy in Islam but do carry jurisprudential rulings and have consequences. And then I was going to move on to talk about the irrelevant information in the article about haraba. Mbcap (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree with the statement that if sources are there it should be merged. Right now it appears as if someone just wrote it using google. 94.35% of the article deals with blasphemy laws in various countries but there is already an article for that, so I am strongly in favor of merging. As only 5% of the article deals with the concept, and on top of that the said 5% negates the very title of the article therefore in my honest opinion there should be a merger.FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 16:46, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Merger with Blasphemy law[edit]

  1. 94.35% of the article is about blasphemy laws
  2. The rest of the article actually OPPOSES the idea that there is blasphemy punishment in Islam, thereby negating the Title.
  3. The article does not include any sources except one and that source too OPPOSES THE notion that there is punishment for blasphemy in Islam.

Please give your valuable input.

  • Oppose This article specifically about blasphemy in the particular religion (Islam), while Blasphemy law is about the laws of the states, which may or may not have official state religion.Staszek Lem (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Oppose "Blasphemy law" already has a considerable size and this is about a specific topic. Rupert Loup (talk) 14:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Somalia[edit]

The following text was deleted:

  • watching a film or listening to music (Somalia).[1]

It was deadlink; This is its internet archive.

Please review whether it is correct item; the ref seems to use the term "blasphemy". If you decide it is OK, please keep in mind that the current descrition is imprecise. I would suggest something like:

  • Al-shabaab, Somalia militants which control a major part of the country, maintain that Islam doesn’t allow watching films or listening to music. <ref/ref>

References

  1. ^ "Somali Men Get 40 Lashes For Watching Pornography". Newstime Africa. 1 December 2009. Retrieved 4 December 2009. 

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moderate muslim view missing[edit]

An extremist muslim just shared this wikipedia page to promote hatred and justify killing of those who criticise Islam! On going through this article i realise that the moderate muslim view is missing. The moderate muslims view this issue differently. they dont believe that there should be any punishment on blasphemy. i tried putting verses of Quran that expose the extremist ideology but they were removed! i wonder why it happened? shouldnt the article also reflect the moderate muslims view and not just the view of extremists.How can wikipedia be used as a platform for those promoting violence while not giving the moderates a chance to put forward their view? 5:17 - "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things." when one looks at this verse it is clear that there is no question of punishments on blasphemy as Quran/prophet do not command killing christians Infact asks to give them protection! please would someone clarify why such a point of view does not deserve to be on this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basitjamal83 (talkcontribs) 18:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Examples of blasphemy[edit]

This section is based mostly upon original research. For example, it claims that an example of blasphemy is "being alone with persons of the opposite sex who are not blood relatives". The source[3] doesn't use the term blasphemy in relation with this. Another example is confusing Islamic laws on fornication with blasphemy.[4] Some of the items are actually blasphemy against Christianity, not Islam.[5] Some sources can not be found. For example this[6] is a dead link and a Google search doesn't yield any results either.

Some of the content, however, should be expanded into prose, like the depictions of Muhammad and the Sudanese teddy bear blasphemy case.Bless sins (talk) 02:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Verification[edit]

I have not been able to verify the following:

The first executions for blaspheme were "in the hours after Mecca's fall" to the Muslims in 629. Muhammad ordered a number of enemies executed and based on this early jurists postulated that sabb al-Nabi (abuse of the Prophet) was a crime "so heinous that repentance was disallowed and summary execution was required".

I simply searched both of the above quotes, "hours..." and "so heinous..." in both of the sources on Google Books: Heaven on Earth: A Journey Through Shari‘a Law and Crime and Punishment in Islamic Law. Clarification would be appreciated.Bless sins (talk) 15:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I check the sources and fixed the text. It looks like Peters was cited second-hand, from Kadri's footnote. Eperoton (talk) 23:13, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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