Talk:Islam in Europe

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Politico article[edit]

I found a Politico article that seems critical of Muslim immigrants in Europe:

Would this be of use? WhisperToMe (talk) 08:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: Is that a serious question? Leon de Winter wants to sterilize Palestinian people. See Eugenics#Nazism_and_the_decline_of_eugenics. Rong Qiqi (talk) 23:46, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
@Rong Qiqi: I did not know who the author was until then (Politico is a serious magazine). I didn't know he had an article. I also notice nobody had placed that information on Leon de Winter. Would focusing on that info in his article comply with BLP?
I actually wonder if, now, the correct places for both that article and the PowNed one (the basis of the Electronic Intifada article) would be on winter's article to document his stances and controversial statements.
WhisperToMe (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
@WhisperToMe: Ah, ok. In most cases it would be a good idea to add this information to the article. But Leon de Winter is the kind of person who just says stuff like that jokingly. He understands why this is a despicable thing to say, but he also knows he will make the newspaper headlines if he says it, which helps with his book sales. Rong Qiqi (talk) 00:57, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Isn't the fact that that opinion piece is unsuitable for an NPOV encyclopedia obvious based on the fact that the title is: "Europe’s Muslims hate the West"? I mean, you know that that is not true, right? We are also not going to use an opinion piece titled "Europe’s Jews hate the West" in the article History of the Jews in Europe. Rong Qiqi (talk) 03:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
@Rong Qiqi: If he is the type of person to say stuff just jokingly, it's a good idea to get documentation of that for BLP purposes and to give information to future Wikipedians who are considering using articles written by him or about him.
AFAIK opinion pieces can be used on Wikipedia to source information about opinions, but they're generally unsuitable for sourcing facts. Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources#Statements of opinion gives more information about that.
Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources#Biased or opinionated sources states that "Although a source may be biased, it may be reliable in the specific context." - biased pieces may be useful in certain contexts, but they should be attributed, such as "So and so said..."
WhisperToMe (talk) 08:24, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Introduction Islamophobic- Deserves Rewrite[edit]

I believe the introduction to this article sets a tone that indicates the existence of Islam in Europe as inherently invasive presence. While this narrative can be legitimately established for the spread of most any major religion historically it does not reflect what is perhaps the bulk of experience by and with Muslims in Europe which occured in the last century and of which will be of most interest to readers. I direct you to the article on Christianity in Europe whose introduction is far more present day sociologically and theologically interested which should be the standard for this article. 2A02:8084:4EE0:6900:F525:F934:86B4:58B (talk) 01:05, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, this article is far from neutral. It probably needs to rewritten based on neutral sources. Rong Qiqi (talk) 23:50, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree that this article could be much more neutral. Kamalthebest (talk) 23:22, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Croatia on map[edit]

Please check: The account of Muslims in Croatia does not correspond with the color that is used on the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.90.227.172 (talk) 12:47, 2 February 2017 (UTC)