Talk:Islamophobia

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Not a phobia[edit]

Shouldn't it be noted that the term phobia has nothing to do with what is described in the articel?Dislike is not a phobia which is:"An extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something" The dislike of a religion based on the teachings and the doings of practioners of said religion is not irrational.It is in fact very rational and based on facts. 47.71.72.89 (talk) 02:05, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

This has been discussed to death (see the archives) and already discussed in the article. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:29, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
This is also no different than Xenophobia or Homophobia.--67.68.163.254 (talk) 19:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
You are using an etymological fallacy. Turkeys don't actually come from Turkey, but they are called turkeys in reliable sources. TFD (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

a person using the word turkey to describe a bird or its meat is obviously not implying it comes from Turkey though, and this is commonly understood! but a person using the word 'islamophobia' is certainly trying to mean that it is a 'phobia' i.e an irrational fear when the fear of Islam, considering its teaches, is entirely rational — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.112.144.10 (talk) 14:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Wrong. The term turkey implied that the bird came from Turkey. You and I both know it did not, but you are not arguing to change the name of the article about turkeys. Also, you do not believe that islamophobia means "a 'phobia' i.e an irrational fear," so you are on the same plain as not being confused that a turkey comes from Turkey. TFD (talk) 07:04, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Wrong for a different reason than TFD. The hatred of Islam is not rational, 82.112 is just a bigot. --Jayron32 03:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Bigot may be a strong word. A position may be "rationally" arrived at (i.e., reached through some sort of reasoning) and yet not be morally/ethically justified.
Regardless, anon is making a highly intuitive argument that is none-the-less irrelevant. If prejudice against Muslims/Islam was called "moderately-fuzzy-penguin-tossing" by a majority of sources, then that's what the article should be named. As it happens, islamaphobia fits the bill. TimothyJosephWood 13:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Dislike of Islam is not irrational.[1] Explain away ISIS and the Taliban, I dare you.CatGrass (talk) 10:00, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Uhh...If I recall correctly, in the US you are something like 30 times more likely to die of a fire you set in your own kitchen than you are to die of a terrorist attack. Also Islam is not synonymous with ISIS/Taliban. TimothyJosephWood 12:45, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
How likely is the fire to be set up to kill you? Compare arson with terror attacks, then come back, OK? But, I did commit guilt by association fallacy, my apologies. CatGrass (talk) 23:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

We already have an article on Criticism of Islam, covering various controversial aspects of the religion and providing various perspectives. Its not the most comprehensive article, but avoids associating the entire history of Islam with just the most recent expressions of Islamism. Frankly, there is a difference between rational criticism and/or distrust of Islam and the outright demonization of its adherents. Dimadick (talk) 19:40, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

---How surprising. People arguing rationally against this idiotic term are immediately labelled 'bigots' by ... wait for it ... snowflake bigots. ---Pathetic, dreadful article. Inter alia, it conflates feelings towards Islam with those against Muslims. Typical of snowflake bigotry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 (talk) 16:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

May I remind you that Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED so if islamophobes go boo boo if they are called islamophobes they should perhaps go to their safe space instead. // Liftarn (talk) 15:10, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Right SAJJAD HUSSAIN (talk) 20:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Islamophobia[edit]

Note that Category:Islamophobia is being considered for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 July 12#Category:Islamophobia. Al-Andalusi (talk) 15:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

This article is fundamentally wrong[edit]

JG Estiot (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

This article is fundamentally wrong and should be suspended, deleted or reviewed as it exaggerates the definition of Islamophobia taken from the Oxford Dictionary. The actual definition is "Dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force". This article does not accept the dictionary definition of the term Islamophobia but instead seeks to redefine it by embellishing and distorting it for the purpose of making Islamophobia a negative and unacceptable state of human belief. It is perfectly legitimate to dislike Islam as it is an archaic religion that breaches most of today's human rights. Rather than acknowledge Islamophobia as a legitimate state for any human being, this article paints the term negatively by lumping it with racism, something that has nothing to do with the dislike of Islam because Islam is not a race. There are White, Asian, Black and mixed-race people around the world who are Muslims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgestiot (talkcontribs)

Wikipedia is based on what reliable sources say. We use multiple reliable sources instead of just one. Several scholars of relevant fields of study have stated that islamophobia is a form or racism or is related to racism. If your feelings are hurt because of that ~perhaps you should do something else. // Liftarn (talk) 14:22, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Probable inaccuracy lacking (any) citation (reliable or otherwise); vague claims[edit]

"the 2016 presidential election, during which Republican nominee Donald Trump proposed banning the entrance into the country of all non-Muslim citizens."

That (specifically "non-") appears to be contrary to the facts, and provides no citation for its claim. Moreover, "citizens" is vague (citizens of what?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:100:4472:3837:7AE7:D1FF:FE82:C27B (talk) 16:17, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. I fixed it. // Liftarn (talk) 08:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)