Talk:Isle of Man

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Mann[edit]

"Lord of Mann" is a fossilised phrase. And the spelling with double N is only used when the use of a single N might be ambiguous. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:23, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

And? So?  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  21:30, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

FYI, the above comment was in response to Dabbler's edit summary of 10 July. ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

No source on egaming economy[edit]

Didnt see a citation on the egaming being a major part of their economy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TangleUSB (talkcontribs) 02:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

See reference no. 7 (https://www.gov.im/media/1359185/national-income-2015-16-report-final.pdf) ----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Referring to large land-masses as "islands"[edit]

I have amended the lede to show that the IoM is a small island (some 10x35 miles) between two much-larger land masses, per WP:OBVIOUS. The descriptive was changed to include England/Wales/Scotland and RoI/N.I. as "islands" in this change, 18 May 2017 - note both editors involved used the general term 'land masses' in the edit summaries.

Whereas it may be technically correct that sea-locked land masses are islands, I feel it is both ambiguous and misleading considering they are large areas having sub-nations and elements of devolved governance.

I feel the lede should be unequivocally clear, and it's necessary to draw a distinction in size; the editor responsible for the change is currently active on this article/recent changes, so for that reason adding this here.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 21:20, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Officialness of the Manx language[edit]

This edit removed all mention of Manx as an official language (and the claim was overbroad). However, Manx is an official language of the Manx parliament, Tynwald, and that deserves from acknowledgement in the article. That English "is" the official language of the Isle of Man is also an overbroad statement. English is an official language there for everything, and Manx also (not exclusively) is for something specific (and probably is for some additional specific things, that would bear further research; e.g., it's used on the coinage sometimes (especially the everyday stuff versus the commemorative for collectors), and there may be various government offices and such that produce documents in Manx. Worth looking into, anyway.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  16:53, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I agree that the status of Manx is not as clear cut as my edit implies so I am grateful for your post here. Further research and clarification is certainly needed. I think any consensus might come down to an interpretation of what constitutes being 'official'. This is a topic of debate in numerous articles, as I am sure you know. IMO, there is a difference between official bodies using Manx in a ceremonial form, and in a day-to-day practicle form. Is Latin an official language of the UK because the language appears on coinage? Mention of the EU Charter is often used to claim that a minor language has 'official' status within a country. I have deleted that claim here and elsewhere because the connection is tenuous at best and most likely does not exist. I can elaborate if needed. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 21:03, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
This being the "master" page for IoM stuff, I think a review is probably in order of all the relevant articles and what they're saying about this, then a normalization so they do not conflict, and maybe even cite the same sources on the matter, and have HTML comments saying to keep the material in synch. Otherwise this is always going to start to WP:CONTENTFORK and maybe even slowly WP:POVFORK.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  00:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)