Talk:Israelites

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Landscapes[edit]

I have removed [1] these photos as having only marginal value to illustrating this topic. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:08, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Fork into Twelve Tribes of Israel[edit]

A few months ago BobKilcoyne created a fork of this article [2] called Twelve Tribes of Israel. CaroleHenson and Triggerhippie4 were involved at the time of the fork. I am struggling to understand how these two topics are different. Can someone please explain? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi, yes, it was discussed here and here, with a comment by Debresser. I still don't understand the need for the two different articles, though, either.–CaroleHenson (talk) 11:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
I think the difference is history vs religion: "The Twelve Tribes of Israel or Tribes of Israel were the tribes said by the Hebrew Bible to have descended from the patriarch Jacob" vs "The Israelites were a Semitic-speaking people of the ancient Near East, who inhabited a part of Canaan during the tribal and monarchic periods". WarKosign 13:24, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm confused. In the intro, it states: "The Israelites were also known as the Hebrews and the Twelve Tribes of Israel." The intro image for the Israelites article is a mosaic of the 12 tribes.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:37, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
I don't really know what was the intention of the fork, only trying to guess. This article contains both historical and religious descriptions, sometimes mixed up. The other one is purely religious. It may be a good idea to move all the religious material from this article to the other one, and to make sure that all articles that link into either link into the correct one. WarKosign 06:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
That makes sense.–CaroleHenson (talk) 09:58, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
It's interesting that this debate from last year has been raised again. As I said in November when this question was discussed, Primarily the reason why this article is necessary as well as the Israelites article is to allow for inclusion and development of the New Testament material which is not covered, and would not be appropriate, in the Israelites article. WarKosign rightly notes that Twelve Tribes of Israel is a religious topic and I'd be happy to review the material in the Israelites article and other linking articles with this in mind. - BobKilcoyne (talk) 22:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)