Talk:J. R. "Bob" Dobbs

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Miscellany[edit]

Shocking discovery in interview with Bob Dobbs: "I said yes and pointed out how the J.R. "Bob" Dobbs logo was based on a picture of my father." [1] Spuddiwinks 02:18, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Guys, fun stuff, but this article has POV issues. Click on the link to "hoax" for a clue. Gruffbear 18:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

What Is J. R. "Bob" Dobbs's Real Full Legal Name?
J. R. "Bob" Dobbs. There is no higher authority than "Bob". 86.141.111.142 21:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

In this J.R. "Bob" Dobbs entry, his profession is listed as "a vacuum cleaner salesman", but on the Church of the SubGenius page he was "the best drill bit salesman of all time". Which is correct? Adversive

Depends what your looking for. If you need a drill bit, he's a drillbit salesman. If you need a vacuum cleaner, he'll probably still sell you a drillbit and let you believe its a vacuum cleaner. Thats why he's actually both the greatest drill bit salesman AND vacuum cleaner salesman of ALL TIME 121.45.252.191 (talk) 09:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Pamphlet #1 makes this clear. For only 30 bucks you too can learn the TRUTH! --Ministry of truth 02 20:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Both. Dub 04:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

"Bob's" face did not first appear in SubGenius Pamphlet no. 1, but in an obscure Texas phonebook. Should something be done about this? ~RevSlaughter

Yes. First, a time machine must be invented/perfected. Then, "Bob's" face must be inserted into Pamphlet #1 before its release. --Myles Long 00:32, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Time control, after all, is the secret to slack 121.45.252.191 (talk) 09:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You must have been successful! My copy of Pamphlet #1 now has "Bob" in it!

Báb[edit]

Has the name of "Bob" any connection with Báb, the prophet? I mean, could it be a parody? bogdan 15:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure if anyone is a parody, Báb is the parody of "Bob". --Ministry of truth 02 19:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Magritte[edit]

About "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" : let's not forget the double meaning of "pipe" in french; which could mean either a pipe, or... a blowjob ! 193.253.176.160 08:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC) Veig.

Let's not forget: Any word could mean either the word or... a blowjob! Austinmayor (talk) 00:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I dont get it ...[edit]

Whats the connection with the Flying Spaghetti Monster in the See Also section? Why would "Bob" want to be connected to such a sham passing itself as a religion? It is here as well as on Church of the SubGenius Exit2DOS2000TC 03:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess the connection is that they are both in the game of mocking those they appear to imitate. --IMBJR 15:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is quite clearly heretical. Austinmayor (talk) 00:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
The flying spaghetti monster was actually Bob's personal pasta chef. Though "Bob" was more fond of beer than food. 121.45.252.191 (talk) 09:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Fiction?[edit]

If "Bob" is Fiction then shouldn't every other religion be considered fiction also? Unprovability never stopped Scientology , or Christianity or for that matter Zoroastrianism., so why is "Bob" considered ficticious? It would be unfair to peg "Bob" as fake and still treat other religions as real. ----simonzer0 17:04 13 August 2007(UTC)

I removed the template pursuant to a discussion in Talk:Holy Spirit (not Talk:Holy Ghost as my edit summary said... d'oh!). --chbarts 11:31, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

If Jesus was supposed to have born fifty years ago but no evidence existed for his existence, then I'd wholeheartedly agree with the comparison. Unfortunately he was supposed to have been born about 2000 years ago and evidence for any particular individual from that era is scant to non-existent.
Caesar much? Cleopatra? Catullus? Josephus? Herod the Great? Herod Antiphas? Cicero? Cassius? Spartacus?
Bob was all these men, and more. In fact, he was all men to all women, and all women to all men. Which was confusing when you wanted to get him alone. 121.45.252.191 (talk) 09:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


I'm not saying we should just take anything on trust, I'm just saying that ancient history is notoriously difficult to negotiate in the scientific manner you seem to be calling for. If religious people have difficulty proving a particular person existed 2000 years ago, it doesn't necessarily mean they made them up in the way Bob was made up. Bear in mind a lot of people (includign atheists) believe that a preacher called Jesus did exist at the time and place stated in the bible, but was just a normal person.

How many people believe in Santa Claus at any given time?


Absolutely no one believes that Bob existed as a normal person.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.146.46.247 (talk) 10:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC) 
Who wants to exist as a normal person?
The Book of the SubGenius may not be holier than a 2000 year old book, but it is more recent. Austinmayor (talk) 00:14, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Bob was proudly ABnormal. 121.45.252.191 (talk) 09:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Famous "Bob" quotes[edit]

I believe this section qualifies for deletion per WP:TRIVIA, especially considering that an interwiki link to the J. R. "Bob" Dobbs Wikiquote page already exists. Otherwise, it will qualify for deletion under WP:Verifiability, unless reliable sources are provided showing that these quotes are:

  1. Attributed to "Bob"
  2. Famous

I'll remove the section soon, if there are no objections. Much of the rest of the page will need reliable sources as well, to prevent further deletions.
--JKeene (talk) 22:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I second that - but on the grounds that they aren't really quotes from "Bob", who was famously reticent; and none of them are quotes about "Bob", either. They are slogans of a kind found throughout Revelation X : The "Bob" Apocryphon, the 1994 book put out by the Church of the Subgenius. The quotes don't really work outside the context of a full-on sensory assault. "Don't just eat a hamburger" and "too much is always better than not enough" are from the church's 1992 film Arise (the IMDB even lists the former here), spoken by the narrator and a man in a suit respectively; the second quote is described as the second rule of the Church of the Subgenius. Perhaps some of the other quotes are in Arise as well, but I can only watch the film in short bursts, because it hurts. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 21:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Isn't this just a picture of Bing Crosby?[edit]

For instance, note the similarities with this picture http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/davies/media/Bing_Crosby_130.jpg

Nope. Note that "Bob's" hair is far fuller than that of Der Bingle. 75.246.104.214 (talk) 03:59, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
Also, it is quite possible that Cosby consciously patterned himself after "Bob", in an early (pre-Internet) example of a "meme"; after all, the "Road" pictures are consciously metafiction. 75.246.104.214 (talk) 04:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

This page needs drastic revision to include third party sources on all material instead of just communal knowledge[edit]

While I kept my edits minimal they are indicative of complete lack of verification on this page. Please replace with adequately sourced material. This is an encyclopedia, not a videogame wiki.

'Charles Bronson': a new precedent in allowing Bob Dobbs, derisively known as Bob 'Dean' to have his own wiki article[edit]

Prisoner Michael Peterson, who adopted the name Charles Bronson, is entitled to his own page. I move that the deleted Canadian Bob Dobbs page be restored as a disambiguation from the JR Bob Dobbs page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.130.228.100 (talk) 01:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

General comments[edit]

1) The notability of "Bob" being questioned is really ridiculous in a reference work in which each individual Pokemon has its own article.

2) Need a really good reference on the "Sacred Ikon" dating from ca. 2002. Really sure that I saw it well before that, but that is of course original research. 75.246.104.214 (talk) 03:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Picking a Shakespearian character at random, I looked up Malvolio, who had his own article and therefore convinced me of point 1) above. --Vaughan Pratt (talk) 06:39, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Maybe I've missed something. Who is questioning "Bob"'s notability? Pburka (talk) 09:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Nobody should question Mr. Dobbs' notability. He wrote many notes, some of them legible and/or in-tune. Randy Kryn 15:00 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Precursor images[edit]

I am not sure what should be done with these. I put the precursor Dobbshead in the article. These are public domain.

Tracing the history, these came from some place called Edward's Drug Store in Leesburg, Virginia. Either Edward's Drug Store commissioned the art or the art came from elsewhere. The ad has no assertion of copyright. A local history page says that this drug store was founded in 1835. In 1968 it was purchased by Carl Emswiller Jr, who has some fame but not yet a Wikipedia article.

It is intriguing to think about the possibility of tracing the origin of early photos of Dobbs and perhaps finding other unknown photos archived, or even meeting someone who in living memory actually met "Bob" before his ascension. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:17, 4 October 2017 (UTC)