Talk:J. Robert Oppenheimer

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Translations of the Bhagavad-gita[edit]

I am not in anyway trying to argue with the translation that Robert Oppenheimer came upon or translated him self from the Sanskrit verse from Chapter 11 Verse 32:

śrī-bhagavān uvāca

kālo 'smi loka-kṣaya-kṛt pravṛddho lokān samāhartum iha pravṛttaḥ ṛte 'pi tvāḿ na bhaviṣyanti sarve ye 'vasthitāḥ pratyanīkeṣu yodhāḥ


I have came upon quite a substantial amount of information from many sources that there is no reference to an entity that calls itself, "Death" in this verse.

I am not completely sure where that came from, which is why I think that it might have been Oppenheimer's own translation or the translation of a guru who may have used the word in that way.

The problem is that, even if that were to be true it still doesn't make any sense, because from all of the information I have found, that word in particular has been consistent in it's translation meaning:

Time


All, this being pointed out I am going to do further research and ask a few scholars/get more information. I think that you will find that what I am saying is fact.

Sanskrit translations are very difficult to quantify because often times there are many factors which lead to the various translations of one word. Yoga is a very good example of that.

Conundrumfever (talk) 07:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)AMP

Everything you say is completely correct. The translation was Oppenheimer's own. While it is normally translated as "time", Oppenheimer chose "death". I highly recommend Hijiya, James A. (June 2000). "The Gita of Robert Oppenheimer" (PDF). Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society 144 (2). ISSN 0003-049X. Retrieved December 23, 2013.  Hawkeye7 (talk) 14:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Reference to two-meson hypothesis in the section: Institute for Advanced Study[edit]

The second to last sentence in the section identifies a muon as a meson. This is true as the meson was defined at the time being discussed. However, in the interim the meaning of meson has been refined and a muon is no longer considered a meson; now being classified as a lepton per the standard model. I think it would be good to re-write this bit but don't know quite how to word it and don't want to be too long-winded on a subject that is peripheral to the main article. Klaun (talk) 17:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

It is always difficult to decide whether to use the terminology of the time. In this case, the reader almost certainly comes to the article armed with a key piece of information that was not known in 1946: that there are a many more subatomic partciles than were then known. I have added a footnote explaining that the muon is now considered to be a lepton. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)