Talk:Jahlil Okafor

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Playing father in father in one-on-one basketball games[edit]

"That year, he beat his father in one-on-one basketball games for the first and last time."

So, I take it, he isn't expected to ever beat his father again in one-on-one basketball games? Have his skills digressed? If so, why would Duke and other universities even recruit him? 198.212.237.48 (talk) 19:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

What's in the lede?[edit]

Per WP:BRD

Why is vague, unsourced speculation about Okafor's height more important than the fact that he was named the sole representative of his sport in a small list of athletes aggregated by one of the most prestigious sports publications (Sports Illustrated)? That beats me. --bender235 (talk) 12:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a tertiary source. Almost every article about him mentions his height. I have not seen any articles mention the SI list other than SI itself.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
None of the above explains removing his relation to Emeka Okafor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
There is rampant discussion in articles about whether he is the best player in the country.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I am reverting your changes because they take the emphasis off of the things secondary sources are writing about.--07:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I am willing to reconsider the stuff about him possibly growing to 7'3", but it should remain in the article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:05, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I agree that this "growth speculation" deserves to be mentioned in the article. But why in the lede? I don't see that. I wonder if anyone besides you does. --bender235 (talk) 13:07, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Trim[edit]

This article needs to be trimmed. It is way too long. There is no reason why an 18 year olds article needs to be 142.000 bytes. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 15:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

    • I have removed some, however, when he is playing in the NBA, most of the high school info should be heavily condensed. It is not important in the grand scheme of things. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:08, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
I will try to take a hatchet to it. Not just HS but an absurd amount of college stuff and repetitive links and multiple citations make it unreadable. Not to mention all of the single game stat sheets, who cares in some game he got 14 rebounds? Needs serious and dramatic reduction, I'm saying this when it's around 132K. JesseRafe (talk) 04:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I took ~40Kb off. My rationale is in my edit summaries. Ultimately it wouldn't be the worst thing if all of his HS career were in one bit, but at the same time championships and nationally-ranked opponents are prima facie notable, like Long Beach and Oak Hill. But the stat-lines are tedious. I can't believe I thought above that the stuff I thought was HS was middle school and the HS career was his college. I removed dozens of references as well, both because there were so many wikilinks in every sentence and the paragraphs were so dense there was almost as much blue as black text, but as an editor, it was just too much to skim through. Plus, a huge amount were continually just a local sports writer who was making audacious and unfounded claims, "experts say". Quote the experts! Took out the most boring photos I noticed as well. JesseRafe (talk) 17:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Looking better. We dont need a hundred images of the guy. Cliff Alexander and Tyus Jones could also use some trimming. User:TonyTheTiger tends to try to WP:OWN some of the articles he's written. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 19:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

Ok, now we know how to pronounce Jahlil (/ˈdʒɑː liːl/). But how do you pronounce Okafor? I honestly need some guidance here. Please add pronunciation of the rest of his name. werldwayd (talk) 07:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Okafor. O-ka-for. It's rather unambiguous. Same as Emeka Okafor. JesseRafe (talk) 04:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Removal of dunking and frontal face pictures from Jahlil Okafor except the main image[edit]

Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#Removal_of_dunking_and_frontal_face_pictures_from_Jahlil_Okafor_except_the_main_image.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Ridiculous. I don't have an agenda against dunking or his face. In fact, you're being so myopic on this topic that you neglect to realize that the so-called "dunking images" I've removed were the ones were his face was least clear. There was one supposedly of him and Jabari Parker at it was just a bunch of arms at the rim. But noooo, that's one of your precious "dunking images". Dude is a 7'0" basketball player, do you think people are coming to wikipedia to look for images of him in action to settle their query over whether he can dunk? What do you think the purpose of this article is? And how do the images included support that purpose?
Further, you've obtusely ignored that not only is High School career beyond over-long, but there is a significant glut of images in that specific junior and senior season area as I've mentioned in all my edit summaries. It's absurd and uncalled for. There should be no more than one image per section for readability, and they should be unique in some way. And not boring. His face for no reason, a bunch of arms, and him standing around ostensibly guarding someone are boring images. If you wanted the image in so badly you could've taken the hint and dropped it in somewhere else. Not to say it would necessarily belong or benefit the article there, but it would show you were paying attention in class and not just edit-warring over wanting things your way "just because".
Lastly your repeated stress over that picture being the "earliest" or "youngest image we have of him" is a little disturbing and has no additional weight as an argument for its inclusion in an article about an adult man. Why does it matter? At all? JesseRafe (talk) 13:55, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Consensus is strongly on your side. Make the edits you want. Handpolk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)