Talk:Jana Gana Mana

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Article cleanup[edit]

This article needs cleaning and much better sourcing. I have started the process by removing many POV and undersourced sections. Please add proper reliable sources if you revert. 182.64.243.113 (talk) 03:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Hindi version[edit]

@Fowler&fowler: In your recent edit, you reinstated the claim that the National Anthem is the Hindi version of the original song written by Tagore. After IP made those edits, I did a bit of research on this. It seems like there has never been a "Hindi version", at all, in the first place. The claim is sourced to the Indian government's portal,[1] which, of course, quotes the content supporting the claim. But serious concerns were raised against the same by people, including several scholars.[2] RTIs have been filed on the issue, which were unfortunately responded with — "information as asked by you is not available with the undersigned", by the Home Ministry.[3][4] However, none of the official or scholarly historical accounts say that the National Anthem was adopted by the Constituent Assembly in its 'Hindi version'.[5][6][7] The information on the Government website must have probably been mistakenly documented. So you might want to reconsider having this in the article. Cheers, Tyler Durden (talk) 20:37, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

References

Not just the government, the Indian parliament, whose progenitor the Constitutent Assembly was, says the same on its website: Jana Gana Mana. India's Ministry of Information and Broadcasting in its India 2008: A Reference Manual says the same on pages 22 and 23 (Chapter 2). Britannica Encyclopaedia of India says the same: "Adopted by the Constituent Assembly as the national anthem of India on January 24, 1950, the song Jana-gana-mana, in its Hindi version of the first stanza, was originally composed in Bengali by poet Rabindranath Tagore." (see here) Whether or not India's government portal, its parliament, its Ministry of Information, and the editors of the Britannica have all made mistakes is not for us to decide, especially not by attempting to do WP:OR. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

I have tried to add the flag of India to the infobox but it got reverted by @Fowler&fowler:. What I noticed is, in the Sri Lankan anthem Sri Lanka Matha and Pakistani anthem Qaumi Taranah the flag is the lead image. This is not a problem as long as there is an image, but there should be info like duration which is 52 seconds and Relinquished which is present.2.51.20.209 (talk) 15:58, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. This is not the page of the Flag of India, which does have the flag in the main infobox picture. Rather, this is the page of India's anthem. The India page's own infobox displays this page's link very promninently. India moreover is a Featured article. Other featured articles (off the top of my head) either have the (sheet) music, the lyrics, or something that is musically associated with the anthem. Examples: Deutschlandlied (FA: Germany; picture in infobox: sheet music), Advance Australia Fair (FA Australia; picture in infobox: organ), O Canada (FA: Canada, picture in infobox: lyrics); God Save the Queen (FA New Zealand; picture: sheet music); and Kimigayo (FA: Japan, picture in infobox: sheet music) In addition, the template {{Infobox anthem}} says in its documentation: image: Name of an image file (e.g. a lyrics sheet or sheet music). For that reason, I added the sheet music, which is available on Wikipedia in image form. As for the parameter "until" which outputs "relinquish" in the infobox, if we write "until present," it appears in the output as "Reliquished present," which is confusing, as it can be interpreted to imply that the anthem very recently was discarded as India's national anthem. For all these reason, I revered your edit. Best regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:15, 15 April 2017 (UTC)