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90000[edit]

http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/latin/peru/index.html the link says there are 90,000 Japanese descendants in Peru.

Japanese diaspora[edit]

people of Japanese ancestry who live in other countries are referred to as Japanese diaspora.

it is Chinese diaspora. please collect. Yuriko Tanabe (talk) 05:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

You don't know what you're talking about. If you want to argue with people, this is not the place. This is not a forum for discussing your pet theories. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 08:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

japanese couple[edit]

Japanese couple dressed in traditional kimono

Chinese couple act as Japanese? please delete this photo. Yuriko Tanabe (talk) 06:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

See above. Your comments make no sense. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 08:02, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't see any WP:CONSENSUS to use the image as being representative of Japanese people and have removed it per WP:NOR. How is a couple dressed in kimonos representative of the complex contemporary and historical culture of the ethnic group known as the Japanese? Are they typical Japanese people? Such images are fine for the body of the article in a section where it meets with WP:PERTINENCE, but there is no justification in using it as an image representative of the Japanese. If anything, it's an awkward stereotype. See the discussion here which was referenced in this RfC.
The image was added by an editor here very soon after the removal of the ethnic gallery per WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES. There was no discussion of the use of a replacement image, simply a unilateral decorative decision by an editor who has had no involvement in the article before or since. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:48, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Iryna Harpy—please don't respond to comments by "Yuriko Tanabe", who is a single-purpose account here to slander the Chinese and Jpaanese people they feel aren't Japanese enough. They've been blocked for this. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Per WP:PERTINENCE, what we need is some variety to show the various types of Japanese in different periods. I have found a suitable image to illustrate this. Andrew D. (talk) 07:41, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Appreciate the effort but that WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES still stands. Think there's an rfc to reverse it though. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 07:47, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
  • There have been continual RfCs, it seems, which indicates that that guideline lacks consensus. We should therefore consult other, more stable guidelines. Andrew D. (talk) 07:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Anyone can start an RfC trying to challenge consensus. It is the outcomes of the RfCs that we should use to judge the state of that consensus. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:27, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Agree. And the current outcome is NOETHNICGALLERIES. Unless/until it is changed, we should abide by it. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 18:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Disruptive reversion[edit]

User:Iryna Harpy, your disruptive reversion did also restore some citation errors I had repaired. Thank you very much. The explanation for your image eviration is simply absurd. How can you pretend one image to be representative of "the history and culture that define what being 'Japanese people' actually means" Who said that an image should typify, or define culture and history of an entire nation? I choose that image for its freshness, for its normality. It is quite a good snapshot of every day life. I would have kindly accepted any change of image but not your obliteration. Your iconoclastic cuts are completely unjustifiable and have no place in a multimedia encyclopedia. Please restore the page as it was. Carlotm (talk) 07:59, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I've restored the citation fix per your request. As for the image of a modern Japanese family, it is your WP:PPOV choice. Find consensus for the use of the image. My WP:PPOV is that it isn't edifying in the least. There isn't even a section on contemporary Japanese people in the article. What, exactly, does it inform the reader of other than the fact that they look like people from any modern, developed country? How is it edifying for the reader? It would also serve you well to remind yourself of WP:NPA. I'm not interested in breaching WP:CIVIL in my communications with you because we disagree about content. This talk page is for discussion, therefore the onus is on you to present a policy and guideline argument for the introduction of this content.
Note, also, that the photograph carries a Personality rights warning and, as such, is also subject to WP:BLP. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:16, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
Why should I find consensus for my so-called WP:PPOV? For putting an image on a page? Meanwhile, your so-called WP:PPOV seems to be shifting. First it was about culture and history, now it's about reader's edification. Tell me; what's wrong with the fact "that they look like people from any modern, developed country?" Be clear: what do you want from me? That I put a new image each day and see if, someday, my choice coincides with your feelings? No way, you are here only to remove. No positive suggestions, no alternate images, nothing; only "iconoclastic cuts", which is not a personal attack but a precise assessment of your violent actions. Carlotm (talk) 07:49, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

I am not convinced with this removing. Many articles about ethnic group, especially indigenous people, introduce images of people with folk ceremonial costumes. --Kyoww (talk) 04:33, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Explanation[edit]

Does somebody know the meaning of the acronym "JPT" (last sentence in Y-chromosome DNA section)? Its likely explanation ("Japanese in Tokyo, Japan") looks like to be too generic. The next section seems to propose another definition: "Tokyo metropolitan area". Carlotm (talk) 23:29, 4 September 2016 (UTC)