Talk:Jason McElwain

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Good article Jason McElwain has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
October 2, 2008 Good article nominee Listed

Marked for Deletion?[edit]

While I agree this article needs cleaning up, it is a bit harsh to mark this for deletion, rather it might be tagged as a stub. I suspect that Jason will be included in 2006 encyclopedia yearbooks.



Updated[edit]

Changed some grammer to make it flow better. Mcc9 19:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed some NPOV gaffs, some original reaserch and some leading information today. 1) Saying "he will graduate" implies that graduation is certain, its not. Not due to his autism, but due to the fact that he's a student and his status for graduation won't be determined until MUCH closer to the end of the school year. 2) Removed "would be an amazing feat even for an NBA player" due to being original research as no such standards exist. 3) Removed "is seen as an inpiration to all, autistic or not" I'm sure there are some out there who weren't particularly inspiring by this story. Personally, i feel that its a great story, but the inclusion that he's an inspirtation to all violates NPOV and OR. If you feel that my edits were biased or inappropriate, please discuss. Batman2005 20:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Feel Good Stories[edit]

I added a new category called Feel Good Stories to the bottom of the article. I believe the

There's been quite a bit of...not vandalism, but material of questionable encyclopedic value that has been posted on here recently. Most notably that "his name was mentioned in the same sentence as the ESPY Awards" and that "its rumored that john travolta called him." These are all well and good, but they need sources people! I read the one about the ESPY Awards and it said that a spokesperson at ESPN said it was possible he could be nominated for an ESPY...this would be encyclopedic if he WAS nominated, not that some spokesperson who has nothing to do with the nomination process says he could be. As for the Travolta claim, that's really outlandish to post without a source and reads like pure fantasy. Batman2005 04:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

The Travolta rumor needs a source, I agree. But don't lump that in with the ESPY sentence, which was sourced. The fact that his name has been mentioned -- by an ESPN spokesperson, no less -- in connection with the ESPYs is fairly relevant. It doesn't fall under "crystal ballism" because it doesn't say he will be nominated for an ESPY. It's just a reflection of the high amount of buzz surrounding him right now. Anyway, I didn't revert your removal because I could really go either way -- but please be careful how you characterize it (your misquote is significantly different from the actual sentence). Powers 12:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Apologies for the misquote, I didn't take time to re-read the source. I will disagree with its fairly relevant though. The ESPN spokesperson has no way of knowing what will be nominated for ESPY awards, nor did she indicate a category or specific award that this person could possibly be nominated for. As I said, you and I COULD be nominated for ESPY Awards. Granted we probably won't be, but we COULD be. Is this mere possibility significant enough for entry in an encyclopedic article? No. The actual sentence as I remember it was the spokesperson speaking off the cuff to reporters and said basically that its possible that he would be nominated for an ESPY. Now, if he IS nominated...lets include that, but saying he COULD be nominated is crystal ballism at its finest. Batman2005 17:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
For the record, here's the quotation:
"Kris Corpus is gonna be a future NBA Star!," said ESPN spokesperson Keri Potts. "I think he's definitely under consideration in several categories."

ScottBatman2005 21:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


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There's nothing private about mySpace. The whole point is to be public. That said, however, I agree it's not relevant to the article. Powers 12:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
MySpace is quite relevant to this article, it is a biographical article, not an article about an event. His MySpace is essentially an online profile of himself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.67.121.171 (talkcontribs) .
Eh, I'm not convinced, although you do have a point. I guess to some extent it depends on what's there, but I don't have much interest in looking. =) Powers 01:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Statement removed:[edit]

'... his mantra, "Stay Focused", which is a horrible mantra for an autistic child' - a very inappropriate, not to mention POV, statement. Removed with indignation. ▫ UrbaneLegend talk 12:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Autism[edit]

GUYS?? This is ridiculous. NOWHERE in this article does it state that he is autistic. THAT IS THE ENTIRE REASON WHY THIS IS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE STORY. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.82.9.81 (talkcontribs) .

"autistic" is the thirteenth word of the article. Powers 14:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Kids with autism are great!

Status of film[edit]

Any updates on the movie? I also copied edit some. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

They will get Chris Burke to play J-Mac and it will include scenes of J-Mac playing beer pong and missing every cup while he calls people names and acts like a douche. They will cut out the scene where the Spencerport coach tells his players not to defend the disabled boy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.155.227 (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Notable?[edit]

Is Jason notable under WP:NOT#NEWS, where it says that people should not be included over one event? Just a question, I don't really know, and I'd love for someone to set me straight...Cheers, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 04:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:NOT#NEWS says that an indivual is notable if "news coverage of an individual goes beyond the context of a single event". McElwain won an ESPY and was visited by President Bush, so news coverage has been gone beyond the game in February. --Mr.crabby (Talk) 11:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, the fact that they're making a movie about him suggests he is noteworthy enough to meet the criteria. Anson2995 (talk) 14:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for pointing me wrong. =D -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 16:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

jmac[edit]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jason McElwain/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

This is pretty good overall. I went and fixed most copyedit issues, though double check to make sure I didn't miss any. However, here are some things I'd fix:

  • "...but began to develop social skills as he progressed to a higher age." This statement just sounds wrong. Maybe "as he grew older" or something along those lines?
Done --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The reaction section has a lot of paragraphs beginning with dates. Fix this so it doesn't feel proselineish.
How about now? --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
  • McElwain "had a tear in my eye." Um.. maybe "had a tear in [his] eye." would be better?
Done --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Restructure wherever there's one sentence paragraphs. Can't have those.
Done --Mr.crabby (Talk) 21:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Otherwise, this seems good. Shouldn't take more than a week to fix this little bit. Wizardman 20:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Good, however the dates didn't have to be removed completely, just meshed in with the paragraphs. Wizardman 00:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Better now? --Mr.crabby (Talk) 01:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Yup. I don't see any other problems, so I'll pass this. Wizardman 19:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I edited some stuff out[edit]

This is my first time ever posting on a "discussion" page, so if I have done it wrong, I apologize.

It appears that a bunch of "haters" came on here and vandalized the site, saying stuff like, "the fans rushed onto the court as if he accomplished something", for example. I edited it all out and cleaned it up. It's truly sad that some people can't see the true beauty of this story.

Also, there was a part that said, "the other coach told his players not to guard him". There is zero proof on this. In fact, if you watch the game on YouTube, you will see that when he shot his first shot, the other team came inches away from blocking the shot. How would the other coach of known about him before he even came in the game? I took that part out.

Wrong, they didn't try to defend him at all. And everyone knew about him because he was the waterboy for about 4 years and the Greece-Athena coach told the other coach before the game that he was going to let the handicapped boy play at the end and wanted him to feel happy for himself.

Hometown Greece/Rochester[edit]

Anon User 149.169.127.35 wrote "Whoever writes this says he's from Greece, N.Y., but that is wrong. Although, he went to a Greece schol, he is from Rochester. His postal address says Rochester, not Greece. Same as Athena/Wegmans...". First of all, many Rochester suburbs have a Rochester mailing address (see [1]}. That doesn't change the fact that the town of Greece is not in the city of Rochester. For confirmation that McElwain lived/lives in Greece, just look at his book. The B&N page for the book includes the author bio from the jacket, which says: "He works at Wegmans in Rochester, New York, and lives in the neighboring town of Greece." If someone ones to add a citation to the main article, it's here. [2] Anson2995 (talk) 01:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

You're right. This is from wiki itself. "The Town of Greece is in the northern part of the county and borders the City of Rochester on the east, the town of Gates on the south, the towns of Parma and Ogden on the west, and Lake Ontario on the north. The town is a contiguous suburb of Rochester. " —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithkesslerexp (talkcontribs)

Man![edit]

Why do I have to keep reverting people who call McElwain a "boy" or (now) an "adolescent"? Isn't "man" the accepted term for any male over the age of 18? Powers T 20:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

agreed Anson2995 (talk) 04:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Unable to graduate?[edit]

The source provided does not say so and this says he is a graduate of the high school. Can anyone explain this? I've removed it for now. Ryan Vesey 09:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Why is this so famous?[edit]

I scored 58 points in a youth game, and I didn't meet the president. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihaitheciocan (talkcontribs) 20:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)