Talk:Jeralean Talley

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Oldest black person[edit]

Why does "oldest living black person" need a citation? She's the 2nd oldest living person, and the one above her is Japanese. Job done! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.88.90 (talk) 05:23, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

There needs to be citation stating that she is the oldest black person, using a source (e.g. the GRG list) is WP:OR and/or [{WP:SYNTH]]. And for what it's worth any claim to significance by ethnicity is dubious as explained in Race (human classification). THat the GRG choose to classify people by race does not mean such classification is valid or even worth mentioning on wikipedia. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:45, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the entire statement, since it still isn't supported by a citation. — JJJ (say hello) 14:54, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that the date of her first marriage is earlier than her birthdate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.11.85.208 (talk) 01:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

What if Gertrude Weaver gets verified?[edit]

Jeralean Talley is the oldest living American and the second OLP in the world, BUT with the pending case of Gertrude Weaver, she could easily have the title of "Oldest living American" taken away and that means Gertrude Weaver would get the title. Weaver would not be the world's oldest living person, however. Misao Okawa was born before her, therefore she would become the second OLP. Deaths in 2013 (talk)02:46, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Let's wait until Gertrude Weaver gets verified first. Elsie Thompson and Mamie Reardon will also lose the oldest living American title too when that happens. CommanderLinx (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Trivia and OR[edit]

As this has already reached 3RR violation (i.e. edit warring) I'll spell this out as clearly as possible: As per the consensus reached at Talk:Misao Okawa material such as "xxx became one of the oldest people ever" should not be included in articles such as this one, unless they have a reliable source, because they violate WP:V as well as WP:TRIVIA, WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. Unless there is a source which states that "Jeralean Talley is now one of the 30th oldest people ever" (or very similar) then adding this violates not only the guidelines mentioned but also the previous consensus. Using the argument that "...30...is nearly identical to 100" is not true. The List of the verified oldest people is a list of 100, there is no list of 30. If users feel that using the wikipedia list also violates the guidelines mentioned then that should be removed also. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 10:27, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you are so insistent on reverted edits. This editing is in order to better the article, I do not think This editing is in violation of policy of Wikipedia. as anyone can see you're wrong.--Disputed (talk) 11:44, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Because this is an encyclopedia not a fanpage. This material violates many guidelines, as mentioned above and MANY times elsewhere. The consensus was reached in part to prevent the profusion of this sort of fluff. There is no justification for any exception. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 02:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies[edit]

There is currently a discussion about what constitutes encyclopedia content on longevity related biographies at Talk:Gertrude Weaver#What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies please comment. I am One of Many (talk) 18:39, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Is she the last known living person born in the 1800s?[edit]

If so, that is pretty interesting. Wgolf (talk) 05:22, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

She is not. Susannah Mushatt Jones and Emma Morano were also born in 1899. Seanette (talk) 05:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Wow-it probably feels strange being one of the last people born that century. Wgolf (talk) 05:38, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Courtesy information from the 1900 U.S. Census: Lwalt ♦ talk 19:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
1900 United States Federal Census
[Jeralean Kurtz]
[Jeraleng Kurtz]
Age: 1
Birth Date: May 1899
Birthplace: Georgia
Home in 1900: Harvard, Laurens, Georgia
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter (Child)
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Samuel Kuntz
Father's Birthplace: Georgia
Mother's name: Amelia Kuntz
Mother's Birthplace: Georgia
Occupation:
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Kuntz 33
Amelia Kuntz 29
Malinan Kuntz 12
Netta Kuntz 11
Richmond Kuntz 8
Levance Kuntz 6
Ida Kuntz 3
Jeraline Kuntz 1 => Jeralean Kurtz Talley


Source Citation
Year: 1900; Census Place: Harvard, Laurens, Georgia; Roll: 208; Page: 40A; Enumeration District: 0061; FHL microfilm: 1240208
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 1854 rolls.
Posting census data here is pointless. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 07:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

1800's and 19th century[edit]

Are these the same century?? Use the fact that we don't have a "zeroth century", but that we DO have a century with years of the "zero hundreds", which is the first century. Georgia guy (talk) 02:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

See 19th century, which explains that it spanned dates from 1 January 1801 to 31 December 1900. The "1800s" on the other hand were dates from 1 January 1800 to 31 December 1899. The difference is a full year. General Ization Talk 02:46, 29 February 2016 (UTC)