Talk:Jimmy Wales

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Former good article nominee Jimmy Wales was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Added "better source" tag, on principle[edit]

This edit may get reverted, but on principle I have to add it. DOB data need to come from reliable sources. A person reporting their DOB in an interview is not an authoritative source. Hence, the 2011 Jerusalem Post interview stating that their interviewee "will turn 45 on the seventh of August" is reasonably presumed to be self-disclosed information, and therefore is not an authoritative statement of DOB (especially since, in this situation, there is documentary evidence to the contrary).

Moreover, there are better, more authoritative sources in the main body of the text.

No source actually need appear in the lede, since the body is thoroughly sourced. To omit this lede citation would perhaps be best; otherwise, move up the Britannica or similar inline citations appearing later, copying one or more to the lede. Either way, the Post citation should go. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I am indeed going to revert your tag, because by your own admission, it is not true that a "better source" is needed for the DOB. You are right that we don't actually need a source in the lead (I suspect it is there because of the inane debates over the correct birth date that we've had in the past). If you'd prefer to add or substitute another of the sources already provided, I suppose you could do so, although the whole exercise strikes me as a poor use of time.
As a general statement, tags on articles, and especially mid-sentence tags, are distracting to readers. The tags were created for a reason and when they are necessary or helpful we should certainly use them, but they should not be inserted for the mere sake of inserting them, and certainly not when they are counterfactual. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
As I said, exactly as I expected (though the justification was as feckless as it was unnecessary). If any inline citation appears in the lede, a better source is needed, at that position; no admission otherwise was made. (And your "counterfactual" is so much dissembling—even if elsewhere in the article the facts are properly supported, the Jerusalem Post article is a bad source for the statement to which it attached, période.). L'avis du professeur, pardonnez-moi. Readers get what they deserve when they tolerate articles where appearance and status quo are the highest good, and so we apparently deserve no better than this, here. Your modifier volant (fly-by edit) remains in place, over my tentative volant at improvement. Cheers. Le Prof (talk) 02:38, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
No, it really isn't. The fact is uncontroversial other than to a handful of people who want to cause trouble. Guy (Help!) 08:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Who knows what is going on any more? Do you? Does any one?[edit]

A funny thing happened while I was on vacation. I ran into someone I knew long ago and talked of old times. I looked up the Wikipedia page of someone he mentioned, Ed Esber. It is amazing how inaccurate it is, and he was editing it himself. I do not know Esber, never worked at his company but knew a few people who did. There is no relationship between reality and his description of himself in Wikipedia. It seems that there are just not enough people to look over the very, very large Empire you built. So everywhere one looks, there is (I am sorry to say) junk.

Now about the vacation, the page about the town says Diano Marina has a notable person Alessandro Valente who is an expert in theoretical chemistry. I was impressed, so looked him up and it seems to be a joke. He was a student in 2007 it seems and may have graduated now, but Google scholar shows very very little about him. He probably added himself as a joke.

So can any one do any thing to stop jokes and errors coming in, now that the Empire is so large? Can one still believe what Wikipedia says? Can you do anything about it? I am all out of idea. Are you? Sky is big, Emperor far away (talk) 22:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

He's also added himself at it:Diano Marina, but without any supporting source at all? He's now gone from Diano Marina. But you could have removed him yourself, you know. Did he spoil your entire vacation? What do you propose to do with Mr Esber? What other (I am sorry to say) "junk" have you found, when not on vacation? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I touched up Esber's page, as on his talk. But it is 1am here and I can not spend my vacation on jokes people add about themselves. And Volante can go back and add himself to that page, or elsewhere again in a month. Right? This is a generic problem of the sky/empire being too big now. Sky is big, Emperor far away (talk) 23:08, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2015[edit]

capricornio picoo jimmy wales Marksoulk (talk) 20:03, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done No idea what the picture is supposed to represent but it doesn't belong in the article. --NeilN talk to me 20:11, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2015[edit]

You Should Give more information on when the website was updated, created, etc. You should make your home page information on wikipedia. (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Jimbo doesn't edit this article directly. If you are trying to communicate with him, you may do so at his talk page.
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