Talk:Joaquín Rodrigo

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Artists influenced by Rodrigo/Cover tunes[edit]

The article should mention the names of popular artists who have covered and interpreted Rodrigo's work. From the Miles Davis page: [Bill] Evans arranged a version of Joaquin Rodrigo's "Concerto de Aranjuez" for Davis. Married to four other pieces, Rodrigo's work provided the centrepiece of Sketches Of Spain (1960).--Thomas Veil 05:50, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

In the first place, since Rodrigo was a composer, not a pop recording act, he couldn't possibly ever have been covered. In the second place, it was Gil Evans, not the pianist Bill Evans, who wrote the Sketches of Spain arrangements. In the third place, if by "popular artists" you mean practioners of pop music, your examples don't apply, since Gil Evans, Miles Davis, and Bill Evans were all serious jazz musicians. In the fourth place, Wikipedia is not a valid citation source for other Wikipedia articles (nor, for that matter, for anything else). TheScotch (talk) 06:59, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Title / Proposed Move[edit]

This article has a mistake in the title. It's Joaquín Rodrigo, not Joaquin. Maybe someone with more Wikipedia knowledge can move this to the right place and insert a redirect? That's the way the German Wikipedia handles it. Update: Just saw the English Wikipedia does it the other way round: Joaquín Rodrigo is a redirect. But still, the German Wikipedia's way makes more sense to me. It looks strange when the spelling in the article differs from the spelling in its title. 141.20.103.68 - 22:43, 26 November 2004

  • RE: Move

I thought that this topic has been discused on other topics? I also thought that I read that the English verison of Wikipedia has trouble with different characters in titles? You can put them in the body of the article, but not the name of the file, it has to do with file-names and computers, etc. You will have to ask someone who knows and/or check the help section.

Here is an example of what happens to the accented "í":

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WikiDon 18:10, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


  • Support move. Use the correct accent. up+land 05:03, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 13:48, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost in the Shell 2[edit]

Am I right that Joaquín Rodrigo wrote the music for the closing theme of "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence" - "Follow Me"?


The second movement of 'Concerto de Aranjuez' according to [1].

Anyway, just saw his name in the closing credits, and thought I'd Wikipedia it in order to find out more about the music, but as it was missing, ;)

Enjoy this tidbit of info.

PS.

I'm not a wikipedia regular, so I'll just stick it in the talk page, and someone with more know-how can put it in the article if they want.

You appear to be talking about a Japanese cartoon movie. It seems to me unlikely that Rodrigo ever scored any Japanese cartoon movies, although a Japanese cartoon movie may have used some of his music. Extremely famous things, such as the second movement of the concierto, are bound to pop up from time to time on TV, in comic books, and so on. It is enough for the article to note that the second movement of the concierto is extremely famous, which it does. Specific references to the various TV episodes, comic books, etc. should not appear in the article. TheScotch (talk) 07:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rodrigo and the Franco Regime[edit]

Anyone wish to comment on this topic? I know little about it, but the sleeve notes of my CBS John Williams album of the Concerto de Arnajuez from 1984 hints that '...the Spanish nationalism of his compatriot Manual de Falla remains a strong influence on Rodrigo's music...'. Perhaps the holding of high academic office Madrid from the 1950s only adds to the overall impression of closeness to a sometimes murderous regime.

Always better to confront rumours rather than pretend they don't exist... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.4.106 (talk) 10:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

A response: Thanks for bringing this up, but.... although I did not know anything about Rodrigo's political views until reading this Wikipedia talk page, I think you probably misunderstood John Williams's comment. In classical music, calling a composer "nationalist" does not mean they are right wing or attached to any particular regime, such as the Spanish "Nationalist" (capital N) regime. The term "nationalim" is used in music for many composers of the 19th and 20th century who tried to create a musical expression of their nation's character. Manuel de Falla was indeed considered as such, and he in particular does not seem to have been at all sympathetic to the Franco (Nationalist) regime. According to the Wikipedia article about de Falla: De Falla tried but failed to prevent the murder of his close friend the poet Federico García Lorca in 1936. Following Francisco Franco's victory in the Spanish Civil War, de Falla left Spain for Argentina. And another source (http://www.euroresidentes.com/Blogs/classical_music/2005/07/spanish-modernists-5.html) says that after De Falla left Spain, "he yet maintained his practice of giving all he could to the needy including Republican exiles in French refugee camps." The Republican were of course the enemies of the Franco regime. So De Falla the nationalist was not likely to have been a Franco-type Nationalist!!

On the other hand, looking into this issue, I found that Rodrigo has been described as "the darling of the Franco regime" online, and he of course took many (career) positions under the regime. Like you, I would also be interested in more evidence about his place in Spain during the Franco years. But the John Williams comment is probably a red herring. David Couch (talk) 00:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another contribution: I too am interested in this question after reading a novel called "Winter in Madrid" in which there is a scene with a performance of Rodrigo's music in 1940 at the opera house in Madrid with Franco in the audience. Rodrigo is also present at the concert. As the book is claimed to be historically accurate, this made me curious about whether Rodrigo had connections to the Franco Regime. I did some searching on the internet and found this material. Maybe this will throw some light on the topic. http://www.overgrownpath.com/2008/07/sketches-of-joaquin-rodrigo.html

Photo[edit]

DavidRF 00:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orchestrations[edit]

I've always been curious how a blind composer writes orchestrations. So many modern composers have worked with specialist orchestrators... --Wetman (talk) 04:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your first sentence: The article says Rodrigo wrote in Braille. I know very little about Braille, but presumably it isn't appreciably more difficult to write for orchrestra in Braille, than it is to write for guitar or piano. Regarding your second sentence: Although Broadway composers and film composers often use orchestrators, no real classical composer does. TheScotch (talk) 06:51, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Dissapearances[edit]

Some of the referenced materials, particularly Rodrigo's own site, appear to be gone. Consideration should be given to updating the foot-/end-notes t reflect alternate sources.

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Joaquín Rodrigo: Dos danzas españolas (1966)[edit]

  1. Allegro moderato
  2. Allegro moderato — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.2.5.53 (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Guitar as a respectable concert instrument[edit]

In the "Life section": "Although distinguished by having raised the Spanish guitar to dignity as a universal concert instrument..."

I have usually heard this distinction applied to Segovia, not Rodrigo, although both were important to the end result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.206.187.1 (talk) 08:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Works[edit]

The list of his works is unusually long for such articles; does this mean that _every_ piece mentioned here is noteworthy? And apart from the two most famous pieces, there's no information (unless we count the date of composition) to help the general reader find out which of the long list are of greater importance. yoyo (talk) 13:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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