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Brian Krebs (August 29, 2008). "Wikipedia Edits Forecast Vice Presidential Picks". The Washington Post.
(none) (August 17, 2009). "The 50 most-viewed Wikipedia articles in 2009 and 2008". The Daily Telegraph.
Maxwell Tani (May 15, 2015). "Meet the guy who has protected Hillary Clinton's Wikipedia page for almost a decade". Business Insider.
Alex Pasternack (March 7, 2020). "How Wikipedia's volunteers became the web's best weapon against misinformation". Fast Company.
Kalev Leetaru (April 29, 2020). "Biden vs. Kavanaugh: How the #MeToo Numbers Stack Up". Real Clear Politics.
Mayank Aggarwal (July 16, 2021). "Nobody should trust Wikipedia, says man who invented Wikipedia". The Independent.
Madeleine Spence (August 1, 2021). "Larry Sanger: 'I wouldn't trust Wikipedia — and I helped to invent it'". The Sunday Times.
Jack Beresford (September 2, 2021). "Wikipedia 'War in Afghanistan' Article Describes It As a 'Taliban Victory'". Newsweek.

Section sizes

Section size for Joe Biden (68 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	9,729	9,729
Early life (1942–1965)	8,211	8,211
Marriages, law school, and early career (1966–1973)	4,287	22,280
Law practices	4,547	4,547
1972 U.S. Senate campaign in Delaware	1,838	1,838
Death of wife and daughter	3,578	3,578
Second marriage	6,872	6,872
Teaching	1,158	1,158
U.S. Senate (1973–2009)	2,338	36,820
Senate activities	3,839	3,839
Equality movements	11,441	11,441
Brain surgeries	2,396	2,396
Senate Judiciary Committee	6,538	6,538
Senate Foreign Relations Committee	4,903	10,268
Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq	5,365	5,365
1988 and 2008 presidential campaigns	44	15,221
1988 campaign	9,335	9,335
2008 campaign	5,842	5,842
2008 and 2012 vice presidential campaigns	49	24,204
2008 campaign	10,783	10,783
2012 campaign	13,372	13,372
Vice presidency (2009–2017)	114	36,207
First term (2009–2013)	22,757	22,757
Second term (2013–2017)	13,336	13,336
Post-vice presidency (2017–2021)	6,578	6,578
2020 presidential campaign	78	45,059
Speculation and announcement	3,411	3,411
Campaign	22,026	22,026
Presidential transition	19,544	19,544
Presidency (2021–2025)	119	205,440
Inauguration	5,784	5,784
First 100 days	12,721	12,721
Domestic policy	7,946	82,462
Economy	21,732	21,732
Judiciary	5,529	5,529
Infrastructure and climate	14,527	14,527
Immigration	12,670	12,670
Pardons and commutations	4,055	4,055
Pardons of family members and political figures	9,171	9,171
2022 elections	6,832	6,832
Foreign policy	7,556	59,756
Withdrawal from Afghanistan	11,112	11,112
Russian invasion of Ukraine	12,141	12,141
China affairs	10,781	10,781
Gaza war	14,127	14,127
NATO enlargement	4,039	4,039
Investigations	23	13,148
Retention of classified documents	4,986	4,986
Business activities	8,139	8,139
Age and health concerns	8,551	8,551
2024 presidential campaign	19,723	19,723
Assessments	3,176	3,176
Post-presidency (2025–present)	3,987	3,987
Political positions	30,638	30,638
Public image	10,033	20,711
Job approval	9,204	9,204
Media depictions	1,474	1,474
Legacy	5,953	6,506
Scholarly rankings	553	553
See also	238	238
Notes	138	138
References	17	1,680
Citations	34	34
Works cited	1,629	1,629
Further reading	2,173	2,173
External links	119	10,735
Official	461	461
Other	10,155	10,155
Total	486,555	486,555

Current consensus

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1. In the lead section, mention that Biden is the oldest president. (RfC February 2021)

2. There is no consensus on including a subsection about gaffes. (RfC March 2021)

3. The infobox is shortened. (RfC February 2021)

4. The lead image is the official 2021 White House portrait. (January 2021, April 2021)

5. The lead image's caption is Official portrait, 2021. (April 2021)

6. In the lead sentence, use who is as opposed to serving as when referring to Biden as the president. (RfC July 2021)

7. In the lead section, do not mention Biden's building of a port to facilitate American aid to Palestinians. (RfC June 2024)

Doha Accord, withdrawal from Afghanistan

The section about the fall of Afghanistan incorrectly states that Joe Biden oversaw the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from the country resulting in the Taliban taking over the country. Donald Trump created the Doha Accord with the Taliban in February 2020 excluding the Afghanistan government and withdrew all but 2,500 U.S. troops from the country prior to Biden taking office resulting in the final fall of the country to the Taliban. Biden organized an airlift to help an additional number of people escape the country in the final stages of the collapse. Congress did not support the continued U.S. presence in Afghanistan. Urthcreature (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He still oversaw the final pullout. Slatersteven (talk) 17:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Tapper's book

I accidentally hit revert when I meant to leave an edit summary. An entire section devoted to this book, sourced to Amazon, is clearly WP:UNDUE – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ceasefire agreement in the lede

@Esterau16 The criteria for including information in the lede of an article is not purely whether or not that information is true, it's also whether it's notable. As I've explained when I made the edit, the ceasefire that was backed by Biden did not last more than a few months (additionally, there were still killings during the so-called ceasefire). The lede's purpose is to summarize the entirety of Biden's life and work, it seems obvious to me that backing this short-lived ceasefire agreement is far from making the cut. WikiFouf (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]