Talk:John Sall

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Request edit[edit]

{{request edit}} I have a WP:COI with SAS Institute and JMP (statistical software). I would like to request feedback and consideration of a revised version of the John Sall article. We're also working on getting an image of him JMP can contribute to Wikipedia under a Creative Commons license, but I would be happy to do that later as a non-controversial edit. COIDave (talk) 19:25, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I do not see any issue with the proposal, but I'll defer to more experienced editors. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
I'll be interested to read through the new information. The original seems too short to me. I'll be busy because I teach a JMP class this Friday in Minneapolis MN at the Midwest SAS Users Group (MWSUG); and others are busy, including John Sall at the annual JMP "Discovery Summit" Monday-Thursday, Sept 10-13. [1], [2]Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 09:50, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi guys. After posting the draft here on the Talk page, in the request edit queue and on the BLP noticeboard I sought help in the IRC channel and they suggested at this point I should just move the draft into article-space, as I did here.[3]

However, I wasn't comfortable directly editing regarding Sall's net worth, so I'm pulling that out as a request edit and asking to borrow the judgement of an impartial editor.

I would like to replace this:

On September 2011, Sall was reported to be worth US$ 4.4 billion and the 76th richest person in the United States.[1]

With this:

According to Forbes, Sall’s net worth was approximately $3.6 billion as of September 2012, making him the 108th richest person in the United States at the time.[2] As of 2009, most of John’s net value was illiquid and based on the estimated worth of his partial ownership in SAS Institute. At the time, John was still working, doing programming, leading a team of developers and having a modest lifestyle.[3]

The revised has a bit of a qualifier that he does not live a glitzy, super rock-star lifestyle. I would appreciate the judgement of an impartial editor willing to be bold and make the final cut or implement as-is if this is ok. Thanks!!


  1. ^ Forbes profile
  2. ^ "John Sall". Forbes. 
  3. ^ Lai, Eric (September 18, 2009). "Billionaire SAS co-founder keeps on Coding". Computerworld. Retrieved December 15, 2011. 

COIDave (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Would it be possible to change your request to include when the information is current? (As of ??? or similar, perhaps.) My concern is that, otherwise, the reader may see the same information in a year or two and think it still current. It may be, but we would wish the subject the best and hope his wealth would continue to increase. Some day, he may even retire... --Nouniquenames 15:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Modified per request. COIDave (talk) 17:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I've implemented all but the "modest lifestyle" portion, as it's essentially a matter of opinion. --Nouniquenames 15:40, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Small updates[edit]

It's been a few years since I've made any substantial updates to the page and I wanted to suggest a couple tweaks:

  1. As an FYI, I went ahead and updated his net-worth based on the latest annual ranking in Forbes as a non-controversial COI edit
  2. Under "Personal Life" I suggest adding the name of the foundation run by him and his wife: "Sall and his wife have an interest are involved in conservation, international health and development, and environmental issues,[5] through the Sall Family Foundation.[1]"
  3. Under "Personal Life" I suggest adding his board membership at the Smithsonian and his interest in natural history: "Sall was on the board of The Nature Conservancy from 2002 to 2011[5] and currently serves on the board of the Smithsonian, due to his interest in natural history[2]"

CorporateM (Talk) 19:52, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

  1. ^ Monday (May 3, 1962). "John Sall - Tech Philanthropists - Donors - Foundations". Inside Philanthropy. Retrieved May 10, 2016. 
  2. ^ "#392 John Sall". Forbes. Retrieved May 10, 2016. 
 Done, mostly. Altamel (talk) 02:30, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

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