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I wonder if anyone has thought about adding information about the mention of Wesley in Evelyn Waugh's Vile Bodies? It revolves around a British film crew's attempts to make a film about his life. It's quite an amusing part of the novel and would surely be interesting to add to the "legacy" section of the page.David Rush (talk) 16:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Ordnance not Ordinance
- That particular section appears to be a relatively recent addition to the article and it is riddled with errors. I'm removing most of it, as I'm not sure it is entirely relevant to a biography of John Wesley, instead more focused on the Foundry itself. -- Hazhk (talk) 03:14, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
A couple of days ago I removed this paragraph. Its only reference was a blog, which is not a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards since it lacks editorial oversight. The content to me seems rather loosely related to Wesley. Al DeFilippo started a discussion on my talk page about this content, but since other editors may also be interested, I'm bringing it here. Al DeFilippo pointed out the 1908 article in the Western Christian Advocate that originally criticized the beer ad and which the blog post is based on. I rather don't think it's particularly reliable by Wikipedia's standards; at best it can be considered the equivalent of an opinion piece.
The temperance movement has widely been written about in reliable published sources. If a beer ad featuring Wesley had been a significamt event that helped crystallize the movement, as Al DeFilippo says, more modern scholarly works would mention or even discuss it. The relevant policies to me seem to be the ones on reliable sources and undue weight of particular aspects of Wesley. Huon (talk) 01:39, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Second floor window
Is this UK usage or US usage. The second floor window in the UK would hardly be in the reach of a man standing on a man's shoulders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 08:27, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
One glass of wine
This source gives this letter to his mother (emphasis added):
- "I have had a great deal of a conversation lately on the subject of Christian liberty, and should be glad of your thoughts as to the several notions of it which good men entertain. I perceive different persons take it in at least six different senses: ...
- ... (5) Christian liberty is taken by some for a freedom from restraint as to sleep or food. So they would say, your drinking but one glass of wine, or my rising at a fixed hour, was contrary to Christian liberty."
Should this really be taken as evidence that "An early letter makes clear that he drank a glass of wine - though was unusual in restricting himself to that." ? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:49, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
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this article needs more references
There are paragraphs throughout the article that do not have any citations whatsoever. Specifically, the following sections:
- Early life
- Holy Club
- Journey to Savannah, Georgia
- Doctrines, theology and advocacy
- Advocacy of Arminianism
- Literary work
- Commemoration and legacy