Talk:Josiah Royce

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Josiam Royce's own biography is fairly interesting, I seem to recall that he had a crisis at some point and got on a ship to Australia or something Domhail 07:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Royce and Berkeley Question:[edit]

About Royce's ideas, the main article says:

"The heart of Royce's idealist philosophy was his contention that the apparently external world has real existence only as known by an ideal Knower, and that this Knower must be actual rather than merely hypothetical."

How does this differ from Berkeley's idealism? The two types of idealism seem exactly the same to me. Many Thanks, Peter Ells (talk) 16:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Most likely it is a copy of Hegel's Berkeleian "Idealism" with its Absolute Spirit, who is God under another name. Hegel was the man who saved God from Kant's destructive arguments. Universities in those days, and even today, idolize Hegel.Lestrade (talk) 03:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Lestrade

Berkeley: External world exists as it appears when observed by a spectator. When no spectator is looking, it exists (as it appears) as God sees it.

Royce: External world exists (as it appears) as God sees it, whether any other spectator is looking or not.

Lestrade (talk) 04:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Lestrade

I think it can be legitimately argued that in his final work, The Problem of Christianity, Royce reluctantly and somewhat ambiguously abandoned his objective idealism in favor of a metaphysics more in-line with Peirce's. In place of the Absolute he posited the Community of Interpretation. According to PC, the Community attains to ultimate knowledge and truth in the end, and that is the far-off divine event toward which we can have a legitimate hope. But because the vehicle for finding ultimate truth is the Community, the Community itself is the Absolute. He also posits some sort of Hegelian Spirit of the Community as the guiding force behind the community's quest. If there is still an Absolute Knower in PC it is this Spirit of the Community, but this Spirit does not exist apart from the Universal Community. Daniel Grünfeld (talk) 16:07, 11 August 2008 (UTC) (Revised; Daniel Grünfeld (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC))
weres his poem it should be there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Unclear sentence[edit]

The comma in the following sentence has me confused: the new Johns Hopkins University awarded him in 1878 one of its first four doctorates, in philosophy. Was he awarded one of the university's first four doctorates in any field or one of its first four doctorates in the field of philosophy?Lestrade (talk) 19:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Lestrade

Philosophy of Loyalty[edit]

Royce's major work was "The Philosophy of Loyalty" and yet I could find no reference to this work nor to the idea of Loyalty anywhere in this article. This is a deficiency to an otherwise good intro to Royce.LAWinans (talk) 06:13, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

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