Talk:Juan Manuel, Prince of Villena

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General cleanup[edit]

I tried to clean up the original text into something that sounded less like a bad mechanical translation. Unfortunately the most I know about the Duke is what I've gleaned from reading El Conde Lucanor, and I don't know where this text was taken from, so it's spotty quality at best. Expert help desperately needed. Shouriki 01:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


The Spanish wiki states that Juan Manuel inherited the Grand Lordship of Villena and bears the title of Prince, Duke and Lord of Villena, whereas the Catalan wiki states that he is the Lord of Escalona, Peñafiel and Villena. What precisely was his proper title(s), what was the title he was best known by, and why is this English wiki article specifically titled "..., Duke of Peñafiel"? o (talk) 06:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Juan Manuel had a big number of titles, as general in medieval nobility. He was Duke of Peñafiel (of course) and also Lord of Escalona and Prince of Villena, which means he was also Lord of all the towns which where included in the Seigneury of Villena. In Spanish he is known just as 'Don Juan Manuel' and in Catalan as 'Joan Manuel de Castella', and I think that the addition of 'Duke of Peñafiel' was in order to avoid ambiguity. However, that was not the more relevant title, as being Prince of Villena is not just a higher rank but it suposed to rule one of the biggest feudal states in medieval Spain. Qoan (tell me!) 12:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)