Talk:Kamaal/The Abstract

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C-class[edit]

I'm rating the article as a C section for now. remember to include songwriter credits for the songs on the album. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:35, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Re-rating[edit]

Start class:

  • Green tickY A reasonably complete infobox
  • Green tickY A lead section giving an overview of the album
  • Green tickY A track listing
  • Green tickY Reference to at least primary personnel by name (must specify performers on the current album; a band navbox is insufficient)
  • Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year

C class:

  • Green tickY All the start class criteria
  • Green tickY A reasonably complete infobox, including cover art
  • Green tickY At least one other section of prose (in addition to the lead section)
  • Green tickY A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
  • Green tickY A "personnel" section listing performers, including guest musicians.
  • Green tickY Independent in-line references supporting major/controversial claims

B class:

  • Green tickY All the C class criteria
  • Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
  • Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
  • Red XN No obvious issues with sourcing, including the use of blatantly improper sources.
  • Green tickY No significant issues exist to hamper readability, although it may not rigorously follow WP:MOS.

My only question now is if the citations from discogs should be considered a reliable source as to my knowledge, discogs is a site with user-submitted information rather then expert submitted, so there is not guarantee of it's accuracy. Also, I've only heard the song "Feelin' It" from this album, but I think you are overloading the album with genre's. Keep it simple even if it does bend genre's occasionally. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Discogs has been discussed (sort of) and rejected as a reliable source since there's no editorial oversight, although IMHO it depends on the release; those which actually exist and for which there is a lot of interest and sales through Discogs tend to have Discogs entries which have been subjected to much more peer review by people who actually have the releases in hand. This album is one such example. But I don't think we need to link to Discogs for this article. Physical CD releases are primary sources. They're published & distributed just like books. So we ought to just be able to cite the U.S. CD, Jive label, cat# 88697-55519-2, barcode 088697551927. The album may in fact be sitting at your local library. We don't need to wait for there to be a New York Times article talking about what bonus tracks are on it. —mjb (talk) 01:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)